Add DLNA functionality

KeithKeith Member, Super User Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭
edited 17 July 2017, 11:31AM in Feedback
*** Summarised idea from trials process ***

DLNA allows devices to share digital media such as videos, photos and music over your home network. It is quite common now to find this feature on newer TVs, STBs, PVRs, DVD/Blu-ray players etc yet it is currently not available on the YouView system.

This would be particularly handy either to show content stored on the YouView box on other devices, e.g. stream a programme to your computer or tablet etc, or to show content stored on other devices easily on your TV, e.g. show off your holiday photos stored on your PC on your main TV in comfort.

This proved one of the most popular ideas in the trial process. Gauging its popularity in a wider public forum can only be of help to YouView in assessing when/if to implement it.
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  • BrbBrb Member Posts: 65
    edited 22 July 2014, 9:36AM
    Must admit this is the #1 thing I'm waiting for .....
  • jimMjimM Member Posts: 22
    edited 6 November 2014, 4:47PM
    Hi Keith,

    I agree, this would be a great feature to have.

    I believe that this functionality is already in existence for the higher end Humax products so I hope that its just a case of youview being able to add the branding and a few extra bells.

    As I touched upon in one of the topics, I am also interested being able to have remote assess to this DLNA server.

    That would literally put all your media in the palm of you hand wherever you are in the world. How cool would that be!!

    source:
    http://www.humaxdigital.com/me/produc...
  • KeithKeith Member, Super User Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭
    edited 4 March 2017, 10:29AM
    My impression from what YouView have said is that they recognise the importance of DLNA to some of us (me included) but that this is not at the absolute top of their priority list. As such based on their statement of software updates roughly every 3 months I do not expect we will see this until at least January/February.
  • BrbBrb Member Posts: 65
    edited 20 September 2012, 11:35AM
    Keith1 said:

    My impression from what YouView have said is that they recognise the importance of DLNA to some of us (me included) but that this is not at the absolute top of their priority list. As such based on their statement of software updates roughly every 3 months I do not expect we will see this until at least January/February.

    I don't think I'm patient enough to wait that long so will probably be buying the hummy that does have DLNA.

    Shame :(
  • stuart52golfstuart52golf Member Posts: 205
    edited 20 September 2012, 11:46AM
    Keith1 said:

    My impression from what YouView have said is that they recognise the importance of DLNA to some of us (me included) but that this is not at the absolute top of their priority list. As such based on their statement of software updates roughly every 3 months I do not expect we will see this until at least January/February.

    Hi Brb, totally agree. Sure YouView are addressing many feature requests/or things it should have had in the first place, but im still surprised they dont realise how important DLNA is, weird.
  • BrbBrb Member Posts: 65
    edited 20 September 2012, 11:51AM
    Keith1 said:

    My impression from what YouView have said is that they recognise the importance of DLNA to some of us (me included) but that this is not at the absolute top of their priority list. As such based on their statement of software updates roughly every 3 months I do not expect we will see this until at least January/February.

    My main issue is that we do not have aerial points upstairs and privately renting my home (so don't want to pay to install them). DLNA would sort this out nicely for me.

    Daughter has smart TV in bedroom and I have a media player (WD) hooked up to my tv bed. She's been nagging and nagging and nagging me to get proper TV up there and was hoping to have it sorted for chrimble but that doesn't seem likely now via YV so need to look at other options.
  • KeithKeith Member, Super User Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭
    edited 4 March 2017, 10:29AM
    An obvious way to try to influence their priorities is for people to vote for the topics. DLNA was very popular in the trial forum and will no doubt rise to the top of a popular list here too.

    Whilst I could speculate on the technical ease or difficulty of implementing and testing the feature I accept that YouView will bring this feature in when they are ready to do so. They have mentioned before they cannot just lift software from Humax etc as they have to provide their own software and confirm it works across all their partner hardware manufacturer devices so we just have to wait for them to go through their development, test and release cycle and hope this is already in some phase of that.

    So roll on the end of October when we are likely to get our first batch of new features and improvements and then lets see what that delivers and then we can speculate further what might come in the next one that did not make that release :)
  • stuart52golfstuart52golf Member Posts: 205
    edited 20 September 2012, 11:55AM
    Keith1 said:

    An obvious way to try to influence their priorities is for people to vote for the topics. DLNA was very popular in the trial forum and will no doubt rise to the top of a popular list here too.

    Whilst I could speculate on the technical ease or difficulty of implementing and testing the feature I accept that YouView will bring this feature in when they are ready to do so. They have mentioned before they cannot just lift software from Humax etc as they have to provide their own software and confirm it works across all their partner hardware manufacturer devices so we just have to wait for them to go through their development, test and release cycle and hope this is already in some phase of that.

    So roll on the end of October when we are likely to get our first batch of new features and improvements and then lets see what that delivers and then we can speculate further what might come in the next one that did not make that release :)

    Keith, you have my vote.
  • StargateStargate Member Posts: 40
    edited 20 September 2012, 12:19PM
    Keith1 said:

    An obvious way to try to influence their priorities is for people to vote for the topics. DLNA was very popular in the trial forum and will no doubt rise to the top of a popular list here too.

    Whilst I could speculate on the technical ease or difficulty of implementing and testing the feature I accept that YouView will bring this feature in when they are ready to do so. They have mentioned before they cannot just lift software from Humax etc as they have to provide their own software and confirm it works across all their partner hardware manufacturer devices so we just have to wait for them to go through their development, test and release cycle and hope this is already in some phase of that.

    So roll on the end of October when we are likely to get our first batch of new features and improvements and then lets see what that delivers and then we can speculate further what might come in the next one that did not make that release :)

    Yes. And my vote.
  • jimMjimM Member Posts: 22
    edited 20 September 2012, 12:51PM
    Keith1 said:

    An obvious way to try to influence their priorities is for people to vote for the topics. DLNA was very popular in the trial forum and will no doubt rise to the top of a popular list here too.

    Whilst I could speculate on the technical ease or difficulty of implementing and testing the feature I accept that YouView will bring this feature in when they are ready to do so. They have mentioned before they cannot just lift software from Humax etc as they have to provide their own software and confirm it works across all their partner hardware manufacturer devices so we just have to wait for them to go through their development, test and release cycle and hope this is already in some phase of that.

    So roll on the end of October when we are likely to get our first batch of new features and improvements and then lets see what that delivers and then we can speculate further what might come in the next one that did not make that release :)

    I vote for DLNA too.

    I think that it could be argued by youview that some functionality could be device dependent.

    If they have to make sure that all functionality is the same on all partner hardware devices, that could be a big drawback and even limit sales.

    Having additional functionality on a particular youview compatible device would work as a driver to upgrade to a newer higher spec toy in my book.

    As this Humax device is the youview flagship, I would expect it to have additional features over say a £100 entry level device that comes out next year.
  • gomezgomez Member Posts: 2,073 ✭✭
    edited 20 September 2012, 12:55PM
    Keith1 said:

    An obvious way to try to influence their priorities is for people to vote for the topics. DLNA was very popular in the trial forum and will no doubt rise to the top of a popular list here too.

    Whilst I could speculate on the technical ease or difficulty of implementing and testing the feature I accept that YouView will bring this feature in when they are ready to do so. They have mentioned before they cannot just lift software from Humax etc as they have to provide their own software and confirm it works across all their partner hardware manufacturer devices so we just have to wait for them to go through their development, test and release cycle and hope this is already in some phase of that.

    So roll on the end of October when we are likely to get our first batch of new features and improvements and then lets see what that delivers and then we can speculate further what might come in the next one that did not make that release :)

    We already have the situation where Lovefilm is only available to TalkTalk subscribers on their supplied YV box even though some of us already have valid Lovefilm subscriptions we would like to use. Balkanisation is inevitable. Resistance is futile.
  • StargateStargate Member Posts: 40
    edited 20 September 2012, 1:02PM
    Keith1 said:

    An obvious way to try to influence their priorities is for people to vote for the topics. DLNA was very popular in the trial forum and will no doubt rise to the top of a popular list here too.

    Whilst I could speculate on the technical ease or difficulty of implementing and testing the feature I accept that YouView will bring this feature in when they are ready to do so. They have mentioned before they cannot just lift software from Humax etc as they have to provide their own software and confirm it works across all their partner hardware manufacturer devices so we just have to wait for them to go through their development, test and release cycle and hope this is already in some phase of that.

    So roll on the end of October when we are likely to get our first batch of new features and improvements and then lets see what that delivers and then we can speculate further what might come in the next one that did not make that release :)

    gosh gomez, steady on old chap, I had to look up the word "Balkanization"
  • MattManMattMan Member Posts: 277
    edited 17 July 2017, 11:31AM
    DO not get me wrong I would love to have DLNA from the youview box but as I have an Xbox, and a Raspberry PI that can stream to my TV what I would really like is the bugs / issuse fix mainly where I can not have the HDMI cable pluged and watch the youview in a differnet room taking the soure from the audio / video plugs as when I do there is no EPG on screen and I have to take out the HDMI cable, this to me is the number one FIX that i'm waiting for.
  • tracestraces Member Posts: 199
    edited 24 November 2016, 8:25PM
    Will be really useful when YouView releases this feature. Hopefully it will add the ability to watch things streamed to and from the device.
  • MadcottoMadcotto Member Posts: 580 ✭✭
    edited 15 July 2013, 6:42PM
    this issue was one of the main things stopping me been a early adopter and im sure many more people who already have this feature on there existing boxes
  • iSPYiSPY Member Posts: 166
    edited 21 September 2012, 5:44PM
    @Brb
    Why not go for the new Panasonic 720 BluRay recorder ? 1TB drive, surround sound, DLNA, use your Smart Phone to control it. Fab bit of kit !!! + you can burn stuff to disc, nice
  • JoeJoe Member, Super User Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭
    edited 21 September 2012, 5:54PM
    iSPY said:

    @Brb
    Why not go for the new Panasonic 720 BluRay recorder ? 1TB drive, surround sound, DLNA, use your Smart Phone to control it. Fab bit of kit !!! + you can burn stuff to disc, nice

    That looks good. I'd like to see a Youview version of the Panasonic 720 Bluray recorder :)
  • neil durantneil durant Member Posts: 1
    edited 21 September 2012, 6:07PM
    I am definitely looking forward to this being added. I currently have a Sony bluray player that I stream to, but it would be so much easier if I didn't have to swap between devices depending on what I want to watch and would all be nicely integrated. I actually came on this site and registered today to see if it was going to be added.
  • iSPYiSPY Member Posts: 166
    edited 21 September 2012, 6:31PM
    iSPY said:

    @Brb
    Why not go for the new Panasonic 720 BluRay recorder ? 1TB drive, surround sound, DLNA, use your Smart Phone to control it. Fab bit of kit !!! + you can burn stuff to disc, nice

    I am holding off buying one, just waiting to see when Freeview launch their backwards searching EPG, soon I hope! Steaming recorded content to another TV is what I like, and the ability to archive content to an external hard drive, both features the Panny has :-)
  • Matt FMatt F Member Posts: 204
    edited 22 September 2012, 12:42AM
    Even people like my old Dad really appreciate being able to show off holiday snaps on his big telly from his Sony connected DVD player. Dlna is so useful. Plus it would mean that I could use Youtube & a whole pile of other content on my Youview box right now, via my smartphone. I would love a dlna server to be added, then I could finally once and for all retire my old PVR which I use exclusively for dlna now.
  • JoeJoe Member, Super User Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭
    edited 24 September 2012, 12:04PM
    Yes would really like to see this feature come to Youview. Its clearly where a lot of future development is being concentrated, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be on Youview too. As Youview represents a new generation of connected box, it should include this functionality. There are loads of competing PVRs and Blu rays players that have this feature implemented, and its one thing I would look for and expect when buying a new Blu ray, or PVR, or for that matter TV. I would much rather have one integrated tv box/PVR that could do all these things. It would make Youview a fully connected and integrated tv solution. Exactly the kind of device that Apple are trying to bring to market with the rumoured Apple itv. Youview would be missing a trick if they don't see that potential.
  • BrbBrb Member Posts: 65
    edited 24 September 2012, 12:06PM
    iSPY said:

    @Brb
    Why not go for the new Panasonic 720 BluRay recorder ? 1TB drive, surround sound, DLNA, use your Smart Phone to control it. Fab bit of kit !!! + you can burn stuff to disc, nice

    Sorry for delay (working all weekend).

    Have looked at reviews for it and it does look good. Very good.

    Although bit perplexed as to why it won't stream mkv files :|
  • iSPYiSPY Member Posts: 166
    edited 24 September 2012, 1:48PM
    iSPY said:

    @Brb
    Why not go for the new Panasonic 720 BluRay recorder ? 1TB drive, surround sound, DLNA, use your Smart Phone to control it. Fab bit of kit !!! + you can burn stuff to disc, nice

    No need to apologise, l was it bit curious about MKV but most of my dl files are AVI so not too bothered :-)
  • BrbBrb Member Posts: 65
    edited 25 September 2012, 11:40AM
    iSPY said:

    @Brb
    Why not go for the new Panasonic 720 BluRay recorder ? 1TB drive, surround sound, DLNA, use your Smart Phone to control it. Fab bit of kit !!! + you can burn stuff to disc, nice

    This is true (most of mine are avi or mp4).

    Do still find it odd that a blu ray won't stream mkv tho' :)
  • Dave71Dave71 Member Posts: 95
    edited 25 September 2012, 2:19PM
    This would be a great feature.

    So, there's an opportunity here; if you get it right, and make it as easy to set up and use as the rest of the interface, it'd be a strong selling point.
  • Martin ShawMartin Shaw Member Posts: 7
    edited 26 September 2012, 10:36PM
    I intend to put my YouView in the loft until DLNA is incorporated. It just isn't worth bothering with untill then.
  • iSPYiSPY Member Posts: 166
    edited 27 September 2012, 7:41AM
    Joe2 said:

    Yes would really like to see this feature come to Youview. Its clearly where a lot of future development is being concentrated, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be on Youview too. As Youview represents a new generation of connected box, it should include this functionality. There are loads of competing PVRs and Blu rays players that have this feature implemented, and its one thing I would look for and expect when buying a new Blu ray, or PVR, or for that matter TV. I would much rather have one integrated tv box/PVR that could do all these things. It would make Youview a fully connected and integrated tv solution. Exactly the kind of device that Apple are trying to bring to market with the rumoured Apple itv. Youview would be missing a trick if they don't see that potential.

    Sadly its just one of the features where YouView is lacking http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/dtr-t10... maybe will be addressed in the next update.
    Launched a year late and its still not great.
  • red snowred snow Member Posts: 11
    edited 30 September 2012, 7:41PM
    DLNA ...... yes please! I have a smart tv with limited dlna and ip players, I also have a media streamer for full dlna and more ip players and youview. I think you'll find there is still a gap in the market for a do it all box, youview could fill this gap if it includes Netflix, lovefilm, sky sports (now tv) and others along with a good dlna implementation.

    Most forums indicate that dlna should be good enough to play most if not all media formats, be able to read from a usb disk as well as a networked nas and have good chapter support. Have all of this and I could ditch my media streamer and won't use the smart part of my tv!

    Youview ....... do it :-)
  • DaveRuckDaveRuck Member Posts: 1
    edited 3 October 2012, 2:50AM
    DLNA was part of the original spec so I still have my fingers crossed, though I think copyright is what's stopping it from being implemented (or more the control of copyright)

    Googled it but can't find it stated... if the youview boxes use 10/100 ethernet, then high bitrate 1080p playback may well be a problem

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk862...
  • creoncreon Member Posts: 8
    edited 1 November 2014, 3:36PM
    looking at the humax fox t2 in the shops i thought that it was the youview box until closer inspection. i find that its a shame that the features from this box seem to disabled on the dtr1000, also comes as a 1tb and the option of freesat. but then again this is humax' own product.
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