Better use of the YouView button for more direct access to MyView recordings list or scheduled reco
*** Summarised idea from trials process ***
Currently the YouView button takes you to the menu system with the highlighted option being the guide yet there is a dedicated button to go directly to the guide.
At present to get to the recordings list and select the top item takes 5 key presses - YouView, Left arrow, OK, OK, OK.
Since going to the recordings list is likely to be one of the most common actions a user will perform this needs to be (more) direct. At the very least the current behaviour should be changed such that pressing the YouView button takes you to the menu system with MyView highlighted. This alone though only reduces the number of presses by one (but does at least mean you only need 2 keys not 3).
Many people would prefer/expect to be able to reach the recording list in a single press. One solution to this is to remap the YouView key to go straight into the recordings list with the top item selected. However, this leaves accessing the menu system in general in an unclean state whereby one then has to back out of the recordings listing. Nevertheless many people may prefer to see this as at least an option they can enable.
Another possible option would be to utilise one of the colour keys as a direct route to the top of the recordings list page in one press.
Currently the YouView button takes you to the menu system with the highlighted option being the guide yet there is a dedicated button to go directly to the guide.
At present to get to the recordings list and select the top item takes 5 key presses - YouView, Left arrow, OK, OK, OK.
Since going to the recordings list is likely to be one of the most common actions a user will perform this needs to be (more) direct. At the very least the current behaviour should be changed such that pressing the YouView button takes you to the menu system with MyView highlighted. This alone though only reduces the number of presses by one (but does at least mean you only need 2 keys not 3).
Many people would prefer/expect to be able to reach the recording list in a single press. One solution to this is to remap the YouView key to go straight into the recordings list with the top item selected. However, this leaves accessing the menu system in general in an unclean state whereby one then has to back out of the recordings listing. Nevertheless many people may prefer to see this as at least an option they can enable.
Another possible option would be to utilise one of the colour keys as a direct route to the top of the recordings list page in one press.
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I understand YV want to keep things simple, as they are targetting people with just freeview boxes without PVRs, so dont want the remote cluttered but a more direct route to recordings would be useful
Since buying the YouView box I’ve also bought a HDR-Fox T2 for all the missing functionality.
When the T2 enters the menu it highlights the last used feature, I think this should appeal to everyone.
I don’t know why they re-designed the remote as the T2 is far easier to use, every function I perform needs either 2x hands or shuffling the control up and down.
i.e. deleting a recording you’ve watched requires
1. STOP
2. Hand shuffle for DEL
3. Hand shuffle for confirm
4. Hand shuffle for a channel.
There's isn't just one youView box, there are already three from three manufactures with others potentially to follow. The remotes on each will differ.
It certainly does NOT appeal to me - to do this would prevent remote control macros from being used to get around problems such as this one - because you would never know where in the menu you would land.
So yes please, its very important to me that a single press button access to Recordings or MyView is provided, and / or the "Y" button going directly to MyView, but please do not change the current behaviour that pressing "Y" goes to a consistent location in the menu.
One other option that could kill "two birds with one stone" would be to use the PLAY button. When playing a recording, the buffer, catch-up or On Demand it would act as normal, but when in live TV it would either:
1) If the previously played recording was stopped before the end, PLAY that recording (with RESUME option available) - pressing the BACK key would then go to back to the recording list.
or
2) If the previously played recording was played to the end, go straight the recording list.
That's how Sky+ works.
When press the youview button, should definitely land on "recordings" not "guide"
Additionally, on the guide there could be a shortcut (hit one of the colour keys, or perhaps incorporate the scrolling menu at the bottom like when you press youview)
Completely agreee also that pressing the play button when watching normal live TV should take you to "recordings"
That way, if someone accidentally presses the play button they will not miss the live TV they are watching, because it will be there in the mini-TV, and they can simply press the BACK or CLOSE button, rewinding a little if needed.
Simplest quick fix (with no negatives) is to press the youview button, land on "recordings" rather than "guide"
If the current behaviour of the play button is not changed, it would be nice for an alternative single touch button to go to the last played item in the recording list (if it was not fully watched or deleted) else go to the top of the list. In case some users would like it always to go to the top of the list, this could be an option within the box settings.
Agreed it would be good to have quick access to last viewed recording (bit like sky+ does with the play button)
Or does pressing FF actually pause the live TV?
On other PVRs info or the left arrow or right arrow buttons are used to show how far you are through a programme (and if held down the arrows slide to a different point in the chase-play buffer) which does seem more intuitive to me.
The update contains various improvements including a reduced number of clicks to reach the recording list.
Now when you have MyView highlighted in the menu and press ok you go straight into the recordings list view without having to press a further ok.
So the sequence of key presses to get to the top entry on the recording list is now YouView, Left arrow, OK, OK.
If in the next release they could even just make the YouView button bring you into the menus with MyView highlighted that would save another press.
A reason I have heard that the YouView button brings up the menu highlighting Guide is because Guide is the most commonly accessed function yet it is not mandatory to have a dedicated Guide button on the remote. If that is really the case then it seems like a significant oversight not to have made a guide button on the remote compulsory (given it is apparently the most common function a user accesses).
As it is I believe both the Humax and Huawei box remotes do have guide buttons so I would suggest they change the spec asap if necessary and ensure all remotes thus do have a guide button and hence remove this theoretical issue and then remap the YouView button to go to highlighting MyView saving us all one more button press.
this means if you have looked at the TV guide and nothing takes your fancy, in one press of a button you'd have your alternative viewing listed.
As is demonstrated by just about everybody who ever pressed the YV button, it's perfectly feasible to scroll along to what you really want when it's not the first option.
But I see no excuse not to demote Guide in favour of an option that the millions of us who do have a Guide button on our remote would like to get to more smoothly when we press the YV button; one that isn't available directly on any current YV remote, real or imagined.