ROWLAND SHEARD Member Posts: 12
edited 4 May 2017, 12:39AM in Archived Posts
Most other boxes make use of the USB port for importing and exporting programmes, music, photos etc. This is what the Humax HDR box does and is a serious omission from the YouView box. It is absurd to have the ports and not allow their use - until the hackers get going?
Also, if a hacked version did get out I'd expected YouView would just block boxes running it from accessing their servers in order to provide the protection they promise the broadcasters and content owners.
As to YouView blocking hackers this wou;ld be disgraceful and I hope we would all complain to Ofcom. Things have been done with the HDR T2 and Humax has not reaxcted so why should YouView - it enhances their product at no cost to them.
What interest would it be to OFCOM? YouView provide access to their service via certified boxes, install unapproved or modified software on your box and its no longer certified so they'd have every right to block it from their servers.
You buy a service for what it is not to make it something else. If you want to install your own software you do so understanding that things may stop working or being supported.
The request for USB usage was posted many times before on the Trialists Forum so its a long time coming! maybe October? The ability to archive recordings to external storage is a must.
The hacked firmware on the T2 is a must have. I would willingly forgo any YouView connectivity to have a box that operates like a quicker hacked T2, especially if I could use my old T2 remote with it.
It would be nice if declining the YouView agreement, switched to a Humax firmware?
Well that was daft as it isn't a HDR-Fox T2. All Humax and other box makers do is assemble the hardware and supply a small amount of code similar to drivers on a PC to sit betweent he hardware and YouView code.
If you're as unhappy as you keep saying you are you should take it back to the shop for a refund or sell it to someone & recoup your money.
It's your mistake, not YouView's.
I have looked at the YouView website and it makes no mention of Freeview or Freeview HD. So Martin is quite right there is no reason why they should start with the Freeview HD standard. or adhere to it. However from a marketing standpoint it is exactly where they should have started from - the best standard which is Freeview HD and built on it. Instead they went backwards - probably due to Alan Sugar saying "get boxes on shelves".
Notwithstanding all this the box has two USB ports which are of no value to customers; this is ludicrous and must be corrected in a software update and soon. I have just read the lukewarm Which review which says wait before buying. Get the product right and we can all recommend it.
A review is just one person's opinion. There are other reviews that give it 4 and 5 stars.
>> Notwithstanding all this the box has two USB ports which are of no value to customers
The box has 2 USB ports because the YouView spec - accessible here https://industry.youview.com/resource... - requires a "Minimum of two: At least one on front panel and one on rear."
They didn't require them to be included just to add another 50p to manufacturing costs.
The spec goes on to list the USB accessories the ports must provide support for. These include:
USB mass storage devices (For presentation of content from USB drives. No requirement to export content.)
USB human interface devices
You can read the whole thing via the link above.
It would REALLY add to the level of discussion if people took the time to understand the YouVIew boxes don't include things like USB ports by accident. The components are part of a specification and that specification was designed for a purpose.
They'll get enabled in due course.
What I'm not sure about is how you can call something a "youview" box, when the box doesn't actually (yet) meet the youview specification/standard. Or is USB support an optional part?
It's YouView themselves who'll add the code to enable the ports via a software update when the need arises.
I don't quite understand the link between this specification and what a box needs to include to have "youview" branding. But at present, if the Humax box doesn't support USB playback, then it presumably doesn't fully meet the specification?
That's really what I was getting at; if the "youview" badge doesn't mean it fully meets the specification, how do you know what level of support any particular "youview" box will have?
It's not box makers who provide the software, this is something YouView do themselves and they just haven't switched on the USB ports YET.
I frankly am not interested in the contents of the 229 page spec. I want a useful USB and if I were Humax I would be angry about the slow progress by YouView which does not help the Humax reputation either
So if I'm understanding this right, the Humax box is "Youview ready" because it has USB ports, but the Youview software doesn't actually (yet) meet the spec?
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This is surely a basic feature required of any box that enables replay of recordings?
I have a 5-year old HDD/DVD box that enables transfer to DVD and HDD and so I am very surprised (amazed in fact) to find that my 'new' TALKTALK box (TN370) is unable to export content.
I was surprised that USB playback isn't supported yet though.
So YouView please can you give serious consideration to adding this facility at the next software update.
is HDR-FOX T2 better, even though older?
Can you transfer recording to your computer like with previouse humax boxes with the HDR-FOX T2.
No. YouView is a company owned by the UK broadcasters, BT, TalkTalk and Arqiva - http://www.youview.com/partners/- Humax is just one of several companies making YouView boxes.
>> is HDR-FOX T2 better, even though older?
Depends what you want 'better' to mean. It certainly doesn't, and never will, offer the same features as YouView.