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  • Maurice ElliottMaurice Elliott Member Posts: 1
    edited 15 August 2013, 5:23PM
    Will not be signing up for YouView with TalkTalk simply because the USB ports do not work with USB pen drives or external HDs.

    Come on TalkTalk get to it and do what your customers want.
  • The WeathermanThe Weatherman Member Posts: 29
    edited 4 May 2017, 12:39AM
    Martin wrote 11 months ago with regard USB connections "...The components are part of a specification and that specification was designed for a purpose. They'll get enabled in due course."

    So here we are in August 2013 and no sign? A common and vocal thread in discussions is that you can't store home video through connecting external media via USB and can't record on demand content, a must for 25% of the population in rural communities with poor broadband bandwidth. YouView/Humax really need to get their priorities sorted.

    Whilst I'm pleased with my YouView box I can't endorse it as there are cheaper options now available with greater functionality and flexibility.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,794 ✭✭✭
    edited 7 December 2016, 8:38AM

    Martin wrote 11 months ago with regard USB connections "...The components are part of a specification and that specification was designed for a purpose. They'll get enabled in due course."

    So here we are in August 2013 and no sign? A common and vocal thread in discussions is that you can't store home video through connecting external media via USB and can't record on demand content, a must for 25% of the population in rural communities with poor broadband bandwidth. YouView/Humax really need to get their priorities sorted.

    Whilst I'm pleased with my YouView box I can't endorse it as there are cheaper options now available with greater functionality and flexibility.

    Martin was just a punter, like you or me. If it doesn't say YouView on the tin (avatar) then it hasn't got YouView in the tin.

    YouView's priorities, though, seem to be providing for IPTV, rather than beefing up the PVR capabilities.

    But perhaps when it can record IPTV channels, as is planned, it would not be too large a step to record the similarly IP-supplied on demand services?
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • Andy RichAndy Rich Member Posts: 2
    edited 9 September 2013, 1:17PM

    Martin wrote 11 months ago with regard USB connections "...The components are part of a specification and that specification was designed for a purpose. They'll get enabled in due course."

    So here we are in August 2013 and no sign? A common and vocal thread in discussions is that you can't store home video through connecting external media via USB and can't record on demand content, a must for 25% of the population in rural communities with poor broadband bandwidth. YouView/Humax really need to get their priorities sorted.

    Whilst I'm pleased with my YouView box I can't endorse it as there are cheaper options now available with greater functionality and flexibility.

    feels like 1 guy in his bedroom making youview and selling it on mass, except he doesnt have the brains on how to actually make it work. glorified freeview recorder
  • churchwardenchurchwarden Member Posts: 795
    edited 2 December 2016, 8:27PM

    Martin wrote 11 months ago with regard USB connections "...The components are part of a specification and that specification was designed for a purpose. They'll get enabled in due course."

    So here we are in August 2013 and no sign? A common and vocal thread in discussions is that you can't store home video through connecting external media via USB and can't record on demand content, a must for 25% of the population in rural communities with poor broadband bandwidth. YouView/Humax really need to get their priorities sorted.

    Whilst I'm pleased with my YouView box I can't endorse it as there are cheaper options now available with greater functionality and flexibility.

    It takes brains to do some research into what you're buying, as well.......
  • stormystormy Member Posts: 1,026 ✭✭
    edited 1 December 2016, 9:24AM

    Martin wrote 11 months ago with regard USB connections "...The components are part of a specification and that specification was designed for a purpose. They'll get enabled in due course."

    So here we are in August 2013 and no sign? A common and vocal thread in discussions is that you can't store home video through connecting external media via USB and can't record on demand content, a must for 25% of the population in rural communities with poor broadband bandwidth. YouView/Humax really need to get their priorities sorted.

    Whilst I'm pleased with my YouView box I can't endorse it as there are cheaper options now available with greater functionality and flexibility.

    To be honest Weatherman, there are quite a few things in the spec which have never been implemented.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,794 ✭✭✭
    edited 7 December 2016, 8:38AM

    Martin wrote 11 months ago with regard USB connections "...The components are part of a specification and that specification was designed for a purpose. They'll get enabled in due course."

    So here we are in August 2013 and no sign? A common and vocal thread in discussions is that you can't store home video through connecting external media via USB and can't record on demand content, a must for 25% of the population in rural communities with poor broadband bandwidth. YouView/Humax really need to get their priorities sorted.

    Whilst I'm pleased with my YouView box I can't endorse it as there are cheaper options now available with greater functionality and flexibility.

    I think the thing is that the spec says what the hardware should be able to do, and any software that needs to be provided by the box makers - firmware, low level drivers, etc. - but does not describe what functionality the user should actually see.

    Thus the boxes have to provide for MHEG-IC, say, so that YouView, if it so chooses, can in its own sweet time add the software support for this hardware to the base YouView software.

    Then, and only then, will the fruits of MHEG-IC appear in the user interface, and YouView boxes will be able to display Connected TV.

    But if MHEG-IC were not in the tech spec, box manufacturers might omit it, and then the YouView software would never be able to call it.
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • Dave71Dave71 Member Posts: 95
    edited 3 March 2017, 6:12PM
    Has/can anyone from YouView comment on why there isn't yet any USB support?

    I bought a Humax DTR-T1000 a year ago; it has two USB ports, so I assume that it is planned to support these in the software (as defined in the YV specification).

    So, I'm a bit confused that a full year later, why this is 'under consideration' and has not even made the 'planned' list.
  • Geraint MorrisGeraint Morris Member Posts: 772
    edited 1 October 2013, 7:09PM
    Dave71 said:

    Has/can anyone from YouView comment on why there isn't yet any USB support?

    I bought a Humax DTR-T1000 a year ago; it has two USB ports, so I assume that it is planned to support these in the software (as defined in the YV specification).

    So, I'm a bit confused that a full year later, why this is 'under consideration' and has not even made the 'planned' list.

    Because they don't appear to be particularly interested in what their customers want or have to say?
  • stuart52golfstuart52golf Member Posts: 205
    edited 1 October 2013, 7:27PM
    Dave71 said:

    Has/can anyone from YouView comment on why there isn't yet any USB support?

    I bought a Humax DTR-T1000 a year ago; it has two USB ports, so I assume that it is planned to support these in the software (as defined in the YV specification).

    So, I'm a bit confused that a full year later, why this is 'under consideration' and has not even made the 'planned' list.

    Totally agree.
  • stormystormy Member Posts: 1,026 ✭✭
    edited 1 December 2016, 9:24AM
    Dave71 said:

    Has/can anyone from YouView comment on why there isn't yet any USB support?

    I bought a Humax DTR-T1000 a year ago; it has two USB ports, so I assume that it is planned to support these in the software (as defined in the YV specification).

    So, I'm a bit confused that a full year later, why this is 'under consideration' and has not even made the 'planned' list.

    Agreed.
  • George HoldenGeorge Holden Member Posts: 2
    edited 9 November 2013, 11:16AM
    No doubt TalkTalk want customers to buy add-on TV boosts and rentals, hence all the glossy literature posted out. Their perogative is to make profit and not necessarily release firmware updates simply to enable USB ports or DLNA for customers ad-hoc use.
    It would be nice though, if TalkTalk responded to customers demands for useful firmware updates!
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 10 March 2017, 12:54AM
    It is for this reason alone that I have cancelled my subscription to BT from whom I got the damn device. It is now consigned to the scrap heap and I have ordered a properly thought out and implemented Humax which has the USB support.

    My only disappointment is not being able to transfer over some of the recording. I assume nobody out there knows a hack to get at the hard drive? However I shall delight in not seeing the words YOU VIEW and BT in front of me anymore.
  • George HoldenGeorge Holden Member Posts: 2
    edited 10 November 2013, 7:50PM
    You could open up the box, take out the hard drive, then stick it in a usb caddy so you can upload to pc/usb pen drive.
  • drhowellsdrhowells Member Posts: 634 ✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 6:21PM
    John15 said:

    It is for this reason alone that I have cancelled my subscription to BT from whom I got the damn device. It is now consigned to the scrap heap and I have ordered a properly thought out and implemented Humax which has the USB support.

    My only disappointment is not being able to transfer over some of the recording. I assume nobody out there knows a hack to get at the hard drive? However I shall delight in not seeing the words YOU VIEW and BT in front of me anymore.

    Rather extreme reaction to the lack of a feature that it has never claimed to do.
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 28 October 2014, 8:08AM
    John15 said:

    It is for this reason alone that I have cancelled my subscription to BT from whom I got the damn device. It is now consigned to the scrap heap and I have ordered a properly thought out and implemented Humax which has the USB support.

    My only disappointment is not being able to transfer over some of the recording. I assume nobody out there knows a hack to get at the hard drive? However I shall delight in not seeing the words YOU VIEW and BT in front of me anymore.

    To me the whole idea of being able to record programmes is to be able to keep a few cherished recordings that you can go back to year after year. I have recordings from VHS now transferred to dvd and I do just this.
    We are all told how we must back up important data particularly as hard drives have a limited life, lets be honest who hasn't had a hard drive failure.
    So we are 'sold' a PVR which has a USB socket, in fact two and as about as much use as a chocolate tea pot. If I buy a car with a towing hitch I expect to be able to use it myself and not for it to be there only for the garages use.
    Yes its extreme but quite frankly after more than a year of zero comment about implementing the USB and having numerous other issues with this piece of rubbish I am happy to lose a few pounds to see the back of it.
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 28 October 2014, 8:08AM
    My question is really if the files are accessible and readable. I can't imagine that it will be that simple and wonder if anyone has done this?

    If not theres going to be a cheap YouView box on ebay in a few weeks.
  • Geraint MorrisGeraint Morris Member Posts: 772
    edited 10 November 2013, 8:58PM
    John15 said:

    It is for this reason alone that I have cancelled my subscription to BT from whom I got the damn device. It is now consigned to the scrap heap and I have ordered a properly thought out and implemented Humax which has the USB support.

    My only disappointment is not being able to transfer over some of the recording. I assume nobody out there knows a hack to get at the hard drive? However I shall delight in not seeing the words YOU VIEW and BT in front of me anymore.

    Stick it on ebay they are going for around £100
  • edited 8 January 2015, 4:55PM
    This feature request has 156 people supporting it, and is the third most requested new feature. It also has the distinction of being labelled "Under consideration" and I believe has had this status for a considerable time.
    It is a good example of what I was moaning about here: http://community.youview.com/youview/... .
    If the status had been updated to "Planned" or "Not planned" it would enable potential customers for whom this is a crucial feature to make a better informed decision about choosing YouView.
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 28 October 2014, 8:08AM
    Thank you (and to others) for the comments.

    My You View box came as part of a BT package a year ago. I admit that I didn't research this too much looking simply at the front page 'what it does' information but seeing that it by then had been out for some time, that it was a Humax box and having experience of my brothers similar HD freeview box I thought that all would be fine.
    My mistake was not to reject the item immediately I discovered that the USB didn't do anything useful for the user. I could have understood if the USB had been hidden around the back under a screw cover but to put it on the front with the standard USB logo and then to not offer it for use simply beggars belief.
    Then when I start missing the end of programmes I look to set up padding which my brother can do and again, its not there. Fine padding itself can cause problems but at least give me the choice.
    I could go on but no doubt I'm only repeating what others here have said.
    Yes I haven't paid the full retail price for it before others rush to tell me this, but that doesn't alter the situation at all. Given the choice I would rather have paid the full price for a properly thought out and implemented box which is what I am doing but it gauls me that I can't get at a few treasured recordings.
    So the moment the new device arrives I suspect that I'll do a factory reset, lose all my recordings, update the firmware if required and put it on ebay.
    Thanks You View, great idea but very poorly thought out and in particular spoilt by the sheer arrogance of not offering features that most people think essential and not being prepared to even say if they'll ever arrive.
  • David5David5 Member Posts: 3
    edited 10 March 2017, 12:54AM
    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update
  • Old Welsh DragonOld Welsh Dragon Member Posts: 367
    edited 11 December 2016, 11:58AM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    I can't see this ever happening now. If they were going to implement it I'd have thought it would have been done by now..
    Hope I'm wrong...

    Phil.. Prove I'm wrong please...
  • David5David5 Member Posts: 3
    edited 17 November 2013, 2:30PM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    They should listen to us if they want to make youview bigger ifnot it wil go down hill
  • edited 8 January 2015, 4:54PM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    I agree see my post above...http://community.youview.com/youview/...
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 28 October 2014, 8:08AM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    I have a good friend who seeing that I had a You Box asked me about it. The moment that they saw that the USB was useless and could buy a standard Humax with USB, padding etc etc this is exactly what they have done.

    The most annoying part of this whole debacle is the silence on the subject, they really do not care about the users one jot.
  • drhowellsdrhowells Member Posts: 634 ✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 6:21PM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    That is the point....if you want those kinds of features, you can choose a different box. This is a mass market box that needs to appeal to as much of the general public as possible. USB playing / DLNA etc will mean nothing to most people.
  • edited 8 January 2015, 4:54PM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    acu tetigisti
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 28 October 2014, 8:08AM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    You have a valid point but to install two USB sockets, to put one on the front of the box and the have the cover user accessible and to have the standard USB symbol on it and then make it of no use is ludicrous.

    As I have said before, its like buying a car with a towing hitch, only to discover that it can only be used by the garage. It makes as much sense.
  • drhowellsdrhowells Member Posts: 634 ✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 6:21PM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    They can be used to charge devices and are there for any future 'possible' use. If they weren't there, and an update made USB playing a possibility, that would cause a few complaints as well. They can't win.
  • edited 8 January 2015, 4:54PM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    Posts crossed over.
    acu tetigisti was my agreement with John's post.
    And also his later one.
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