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  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 28 October 2014, 8:08AM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    Why would I wish to charge a device using my You View box?

    With respect you miss the point, if they are there to be implemented at some time in the future then someone please have the courtesy to say so.
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 28 October 2014, 8:08AM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    gwatuk...........cheers, thanks.
  • drhowellsdrhowells Member Posts: 634 ✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 6:21PM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    I am not saying you would, but I know many do charge devices off the USB. It is convenient.....and no, i'm not missing any point.
  • JamesBJamesB Member Posts: 841
    edited 31 March 2014, 11:11AM
    David5 said:

    please please add media support to youview usb i always love watching films off my usb and have to use my xbox to watch a film off it i would use youview if it could read media of usb so please do this update

    The USB connections aren't completely without function. I use the rear USB to power a DAC. Some use it to power a wireless router. And the USB symbol is necessary, since that's in fact what the connections are.

    The YouView box was brought to market in an unfinished state. Quite a number of features described in the core spec have not been implemented in the Humax and Huawei boxes. Some of the missing features are more important to YouView's purpose than wireless or USB media support. That's no doubt why they're being given priority.
  • edited 10 March 2017, 12:54AM
    The fact remains that this feature request has received substantial support.
    And as John said:
    "The most annoying part of this whole debacle is the silence on the subject, they really do not care about the users one jot."
  • drhowellsdrhowells Member Posts: 634 ✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 6:21PM
    gwatuk said:

    The fact remains that this feature request has received substantial support.
    And as John said:
    "The most annoying part of this whole debacle is the silence on the subject, they really do not care about the users one jot."

    Substantial support? 161 people out of many 100's of thousands boxes in use. Not exactly substantial. YouView cannot win when it comes to announcing features. If they say it is coming and there is a delay or some other functionality has to come first, they will get slated for that.

    It is rare any company will announce features like this until they are ready to go live with them. There are not just customers to consider, there are competitors as well.
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 10 March 2017, 12:54AM
    drhowells. You are of course 100% correct about what can be done with the USB but to charge or power external devices is a secondary function. Its primarily a port for exchanging data.
  • drhowellsdrhowells Member Posts: 634 ✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 6:21PM
    John15 said:

    drhowells. You are of course 100% correct about what can be done with the USB but to charge or power external devices is a secondary function. Its primarily a port for exchanging data.

    Actually, the 2 primary uses for USB is to exchange data and to supply power. I never said it wasn't. Just that it can't at the moment.
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 28 October 2014, 8:08AM
    gwatuk said:

    The fact remains that this feature request has received substantial support.
    And as John said:
    "The most annoying part of this whole debacle is the silence on the subject, they really do not care about the users one jot."

    I have had my box for 12 months, at the time it arrived I was puzzled by the non working USB and looking around the net found that many people who had trialed You View had raised this same issue. The problem has therefore been around for perhaps 18 months or longer.

    Add into the equation that the box is simply a reworked standard Humax Freeview HD PVR which already has most of the functions that people would like to see and you have to wonder what the problem is with implementing them and why the omissions ever happened in the first place.

    I assume theres one poor sod in a sweat shop in the far east working on this based on the speed at which things are done.
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 28 October 2014, 8:08AM
    John15 said:

    drhowells. You are of course 100% correct about what can be done with the USB but to charge or power external devices is a secondary function. Its primarily a port for exchanging data.

    No I don't think so, I believe its primary use is to exchange data and supply power (as in a USB flash drive) I understand that to supply power only (as in charging) is a secondary use. However we're splitting hairs or rather I am.
  • drhowellsdrhowells Member Posts: 634 ✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 6:21PM
    gwatuk said:

    The fact remains that this feature request has received substantial support.
    And as John said:
    "The most annoying part of this whole debacle is the silence on the subject, they really do not care about the users one jot."

    It is not a problem, just a feature that has not been implemented. I understand development processes, so I can understand why it is not implemented. If you want all of the features of the Humax Freeview HD PVR....why don't you get a Humax Freeview HD PVR? YouView have never promised this feature, so why get so annoyed that it isn't there? I give up on this thread now.
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 28 October 2014, 8:08AM
    gwatuk said:

    The fact remains that this feature request has received substantial support.
    And as John said:
    "The most annoying part of this whole debacle is the silence on the subject, they really do not care about the users one jot."

    If you read my thread you'll see that I have bought a Humax for this very reason. Its so damned annoying that I can't get at my recordings and transfer them over. The You View box is going to be scrapped.
  • edited 8 January 2015, 4:54PM
    gwatuk said:

    The fact remains that this feature request has received substantial support.
    And as John said:
    "The most annoying part of this whole debacle is the silence on the subject, they really do not care about the users one jot."

    drhowells -

    1) "Substantial support?" - as I keep saying it "is the third most requested new feature".
    This forum has many subscribers but only a minority choose to indicate their support of the feature requests.

    2) "It is rare any company will announce features" - YouView chose this forum software which is designed to provide feedback on ideas. They seem to have had the intention to do this and did so in the first few months. They seem to have now given up on this. It is therefore not surprising that many forum members are frustrated by the lack of information.
  • JamesBJamesB Member Posts: 841
    edited 31 March 2014, 11:11AM
    I think it must be the childish nature of this forum software, with its gold stars and its exhortations to "Get emotional!" that tends to create an expectation that demands made here will carry greater influence than would be given to the same demands expressed in a telephone call or email to the CEO.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,303 ✭✭✭
    edited 26 February 2017, 2:39PM
    John>
    Add into the equation that the box is simply a reworked standard Humax Freeview HD PVR which already has most of the functions that people would like to see
    No it isn't actually. And thats from the horses mouth. I once had a conversation with the manager of the Humax YouView development team (who posts on internet forums) and he said the form and complexity of the YV platform and box was a whole new level to anything Humax had ever before produced.

    This will never be a feature rich box with bells and whistles. But it will, in time, be a service rich one.
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • Jasper WarwickJasper Warwick Member Posts: 1
    edited 18 November 2013, 7:17PM
    I use YouView for storing kids programmes, for my 3 and 7 YO. I am dreading that day that YOuView crashes so badly that I loose all my stored programmes. Having the option to back up would be so useful. I don't mind if the backup is encrypted so it will only work on YouView.
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 28 October 2014, 8:08AM
    Hi Jasper

    Yes this is my real concern. We all know how important it is to back up data, we all know how often hard drives crash, all I'm asking for is to be able to move programmes to a remote drive even if somehow they are encrypted so they only work with another You View box.

    However for some reason the You View development team are reading these comments and refusing to confirm if such a feature (I would call it a basic necessity) will be implemented.

    Quite honestly I am deeply offended by the refusal of anyone from You View to state yes or even no to this. Many people want this, the threads are full of this request, yet one feels as if they take pleasure in annoying us.

    So I now have a standard Humax and am retaining the You View for a few weeks in the hope that someone will indeed comment.

    I am tempted to open the box remove the hard drive and interrogate this and wonder if anyone else has tried this? Ultimately I intend disposing of or scrapping the box. Its just has to go, its presence annoys me.
  • JamesBJamesB Member Posts: 841
    edited 31 March 2014, 11:11AM
    John15 said:

    Hi Jasper

    Yes this is my real concern. We all know how important it is to back up data, we all know how often hard drives crash, all I'm asking for is to be able to move programmes to a remote drive even if somehow they are encrypted so they only work with another You View box.

    However for some reason the You View development team are reading these comments and refusing to confirm if such a feature (I would call it a basic necessity) will be implemented.

    Quite honestly I am deeply offended by the refusal of anyone from You View to state yes or even no to this. Many people want this, the threads are full of this request, yet one feels as if they take pleasure in annoying us.

    So I now have a standard Humax and am retaining the You View for a few weeks in the hope that someone will indeed comment.

    I am tempted to open the box remove the hard drive and interrogate this and wonder if anyone else has tried this? Ultimately I intend disposing of or scrapping the box. Its just has to go, its presence annoys me.

    Picture of the innards here, if you decide to have a go:

    https://community.youview.com/youview...
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 28 October 2014, 8:08AM
    Hello James
    Grateful for that. I am happy to open the box but before I do I am hoping that someone will tell me if the recordings are able to be accessed.
    Thanks for your assistance.
  • JamesBJamesB Member Posts: 841
    edited 31 March 2014, 11:11AM
    I doubt it, to be honest. Else the fact would be well known, by now.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,303 ✭✭✭
    edited 6 March 2017, 10:48PM
    Can one not use a scart connector to a DVD recorder for such?
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • John15John15 Member Posts: 68
    edited 4 May 2017, 12:39AM
    Transferring to DVDs would be an big task and require lots of discs. In addition they couldn't be transferred to another PVR. I suppose there must be some mechanism to video capture onto a hard drive but really what the hell is going on? Just enable the USB socket for use like most other PVRs.

    No, I can see its not going to happen, they have no intention of doing this. I have had enough. I have to accept it and get it out of my life.

    Thanks people, you've helped me make a decision. I'll do a reset tomorrow, erase the recordings and put it on ebay.

    Bye all. I shan't post again.
  • JamesBJamesB Member Posts: 841
    edited 31 March 2014, 11:11AM
    Yes but only by playing each recording and re-recording it as it plays.
  • JamesBJamesB Member Posts: 841
    edited 31 March 2014, 11:11AM
    Visionman said:

    Can one not use a scart connector to a DVD recorder for such?

    Yes but only by playing each recording and re-recording it as it plays.
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  • edited 8 January 2015, 4:54PM
    John15 said:

    Transferring to DVDs would be an big task and require lots of discs. In addition they couldn't be transferred to another PVR. I suppose there must be some mechanism to video capture onto a hard drive but really what the hell is going on? Just enable the USB socket for use like most other PVRs.

    No, I can see its not going to happen, they have no intention of doing this. I have had enough. I have to accept it and get it out of my life.

    Thanks people, you've helped me make a decision. I'll do a reset tomorrow, erase the recordings and put it on ebay.

    Bye all. I shan't post again.

    Another success story for the forum.
    Smiley
  • JamesBJamesB Member Posts: 841
    edited 31 March 2014, 11:11AM
    John15 said:

    Transferring to DVDs would be an big task and require lots of discs. In addition they couldn't be transferred to another PVR. I suppose there must be some mechanism to video capture onto a hard drive but really what the hell is going on? Just enable the USB socket for use like most other PVRs.

    No, I can see its not going to happen, they have no intention of doing this. I have had enough. I have to accept it and get it out of my life.

    Thanks people, you've helped me make a decision. I'll do a reset tomorrow, erase the recordings and put it on ebay.

    Bye all. I shan't post again.

    Eh?
  • edited 8 January 2015, 4:54PM
    John15 said:

    Transferring to DVDs would be an big task and require lots of discs. In addition they couldn't be transferred to another PVR. I suppose there must be some mechanism to video capture onto a hard drive but really what the hell is going on? Just enable the USB socket for use like most other PVRs.

    No, I can see its not going to happen, they have no intention of doing this. I have had enough. I have to accept it and get it out of my life.

    Thanks people, you've helped me make a decision. I'll do a reset tomorrow, erase the recordings and put it on ebay.

    Bye all. I shan't post again.

    The forum at it's best.
    Customer to customer support, and a stony silence from YouView.
  • JamesBJamesB Member Posts: 841
    edited 31 March 2014, 11:11AM
    John15 said:

    Transferring to DVDs would be an big task and require lots of discs. In addition they couldn't be transferred to another PVR. I suppose there must be some mechanism to video capture onto a hard drive but really what the hell is going on? Just enable the USB socket for use like most other PVRs.

    No, I can see its not going to happen, they have no intention of doing this. I have had enough. I have to accept it and get it out of my life.

    Thanks people, you've helped me make a decision. I'll do a reset tomorrow, erase the recordings and put it on ebay.

    Bye all. I shan't post again.

    As far as I can see it was just an exchange about a YouView box. I doubt if anyone from YouView was even following it, as it's quite late.
  • churchwardenchurchwarden Member Posts: 795
    edited 2 December 2016, 8:27PM
    John15 said:

    Transferring to DVDs would be an big task and require lots of discs. In addition they couldn't be transferred to another PVR. I suppose there must be some mechanism to video capture onto a hard drive but really what the hell is going on? Just enable the USB socket for use like most other PVRs.

    No, I can see its not going to happen, they have no intention of doing this. I have had enough. I have to accept it and get it out of my life.

    Thanks people, you've helped me make a decision. I'll do a reset tomorrow, erase the recordings and put it on ebay.

    Bye all. I shan't post again.

    Gwatuk "The forum at it's best.
    Customer to customer support, and a stony silence from YouView."

    You've been told about that before, Gwatuk. DO NOT REFER TO IT - EVEN IF IT IS IN THE ROOM. Just do what everyone else does! Walk round it as if it isn't there, for goodness sakes! How many more times do we have to tell you?!

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  • edited 8 January 2015, 4:54PM
    John15 said:

    Transferring to DVDs would be an big task and require lots of discs. In addition they couldn't be transferred to another PVR. I suppose there must be some mechanism to video capture onto a hard drive but really what the hell is going on? Just enable the USB socket for use like most other PVRs.

    No, I can see its not going to happen, they have no intention of doing this. I have had enough. I have to accept it and get it out of my life.

    Thanks people, you've helped me make a decision. I'll do a reset tomorrow, erase the recordings and put it on ebay.

    Bye all. I shan't post again.

    JamesB - John has made comments several times (not just this evening) such as "The most annoying part of this whole debacle is the silence on the subject..."
    The point I am trying to convey (and which I think I've made clear in various threads) is that, in my opinion, YouView should be prepared to provide some kind of clarification of the status of developments such as this.
    I'm not suggesting any kind of firm commitment to deliver this. But simply whether or not it is still "Under consideration" or even "Planned".
    If it is definitely "Not planned" then it would be very helpful to know this.
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