Well a year after the original post still no sign of NetFlix or Lovefilm coming to Youview. Very disappointed with progress if I'm honest. Glad I never paid for a box.
Well a year after the original post still no sign of NetFlix or Lovefilm coming to Youview. Very disappointed with progress if I'm honest. Glad I never paid for a box.
The obvious conclusion is that NowTv's owners have brought pressure to bear. That's been denied in the past, but I remain to be convinced.
I have just got a youview box and was very disappointed that netflix or lovefilm was not available. Also the 7 day catch up only works on a few channels. They dont mention that in the advert!!
Why cant netflix be added? Would make such a big difference...
Is there any chance of Netflix and Lovefilm to be available on ALL YouView platforms???? We have all heard the "watch this space" guff from the YV team but are they coming or not?
I've decided to work from the premise that they won't be. I access this through a blueray player. If my human box ever broke I might just invest in a smart tv instead of another youview box
pointless waiting for this any longer. I am ditching YouView partly for this reason. I just don't want an additional box just for the catch-up services. Plus, I think YouView's USP is a great idea poorly executed. Scrolling back in time in the guide is of no use unless you can access the program you have just missed right away, or lookup the program, not the channel and the time it was last aired.
pointless waiting for this any longer. I am ditching YouView partly for this reason. I just don't want an additional box just for the catch-up services. Plus, I think YouView's USP is a great idea poorly executed. Scrolling back in time in the guide is of no use unless you can access the program you have just missed right away, or lookup the program, not the channel and the time it was last aired.
'Right away' you can't get, which is understandable in the case of live programmes, but bad and inexplicable in the case of prerecorded ones which should be available on catchup from about one minute after the linear transmission starts.
However, this is true of catchup anywhere, not just on YouView, which gets them as fast as any other catchup service., so it's all down to the broadcasters, not YouView, and will affect any platform you use. As far as I know. But perhaps you know different?
As regards lookup, the YouView Search is exceptionally powerful and will indeed allow you to look up the programme by name, irregardless of what channel, or time, it was on.
And no other provider provides this (again, as far as I know, though perhaps you know different?)
Actually, it would greatly help if the results of this search did list channel and time(s) of transmission - you try figuring out for 'Homes Under the Hammer', say, which one of the proffered episodes is the one you missed from this morning - but it doesn't.
As regards LoveFlix and NetFilm, I suspect no conspiracy, but rather a simple standoff where YouView want the providers of these services to jump through YouView's player specification hoops, and these providers want YouView to supply the requisite middleware to them.
Or maybe NetFlix, notoriously picky about the quality of the delivered service, have decided the YouView box/service just isn't up to it?
But yes, YouView's dream of 'one box to rule them all' never came to fruition, and probably never will now, so we have to pick and choose from the smorgasbord of devices out there, when we were all hoping that YouView's table d'hôte would feed us all we needed.
Sad days.....
‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
pointless waiting for this any longer. I am ditching YouView partly for this reason. I just don't want an additional box just for the catch-up services. Plus, I think YouView's USP is a great idea poorly executed. Scrolling back in time in the guide is of no use unless you can access the program you have just missed right away, or lookup the program, not the channel and the time it was last aired.
Well another year on and still no further forward, sorry chaps but this is dead in the water, YV is just not the attractive format it billed itself to he, Love film favours their own new machine and to be honest Netflix is available on every device on the market apart from YV, it's a multimedia failure, we asked for these service right from the start in the trials stages and we're faithfully promised action, and nothing...Nada...niente. ..I've given up hoping for this because it just ain't ever going to happen, I ended up buying a nowtv box as you can now download plex onto it and stream your pc/tablet/mobile thru it to your TV. ...as well as get Netflix. ..now that's versatility and it only cost me a tenner...sweet...give up the ghost guys...YV is sadly going nowhere fast...check eBay for the sad truth
pointless waiting for this any longer. I am ditching YouView partly for this reason. I just don't want an additional box just for the catch-up services. Plus, I think YouView's USP is a great idea poorly executed. Scrolling back in time in the guide is of no use unless you can access the program you have just missed right away, or lookup the program, not the channel and the time it was last aired.
I still don't get why people are upset at not being able to access services with old movies. We've tried NowTV, Netflix, Blinkbox - they just don't have movies that are up-to-date enough. We've seen them already.
The YouView box is still IMO the best PVR on the market and we use it as such. We've just ditched Sky+ after a year's free full service (long story involving O2 switching their internet service to Sky) and, to be perfectly frank, in that year we watched Sky less than 1% of the time.
The Sky+ box would only allow us to watch and/or record on 1 channel at a time and what's even more ball-aching for me is those programmes I did record on it I am now no longer able to watch because I don't have an active Sky+ contract.
pointless waiting for this any longer. I am ditching YouView partly for this reason. I just don't want an additional box just for the catch-up services. Plus, I think YouView's USP is a great idea poorly executed. Scrolling back in time in the guide is of no use unless you can access the program you have just missed right away, or lookup the program, not the channel and the time it was last aired.
Alan, you said:- 'The Sky+ box would only allow us to watch and/or record on 1 channel at a time'
But on this page:- http://www.sky.com/products/kit/sky-p... it says TV when it suits you: Record two shows at once, even while watching another one you've already recorded
Can you explain the discrepancy here?
‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
pointless waiting for this any longer. I am ditching YouView partly for this reason. I just don't want an additional box just for the catch-up services. Plus, I think YouView's USP is a great idea poorly executed. Scrolling back in time in the guide is of no use unless you can access the program you have just missed right away, or lookup the program, not the channel and the time it was last aired.
You can record a channel on sky, and watch another channel (and change channels etc) or you can record two channels on Sky (i.e. if the box is in standby or you are watching something you have already recorded). If however you are recording 2 channels and try to change channel from one of those being recorded, you get a "Recording Clash" message and you either have to stay on that channel or cancel one of the recordings. I too have just ditched sky for BT YV after 5 years of Sky service.
pointless waiting for this any longer. I am ditching YouView partly for this reason. I just don't want an additional box just for the catch-up services. Plus, I think YouView's USP is a great idea poorly executed. Scrolling back in time in the guide is of no use unless you can access the program you have just missed right away, or lookup the program, not the channel and the time it was last aired.
Where you can watch a third channel while recording two others provided the channel you want to watch does not mean you are now trying to access three multiplexes simultaneously. Slightly arcane for the uninitiated......
‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
pointless waiting for this any longer. I am ditching YouView partly for this reason. I just don't want an additional box just for the catch-up services. Plus, I think YouView's USP is a great idea poorly executed. Scrolling back in time in the guide is of no use unless you can access the program you have just missed right away, or lookup the program, not the channel and the time it was last aired.
So if Sky+ allows recording of 2 channels at the same time, how many more can YV record? Not that this thread is about that.
I agree with your old film comment, but Netflix has some good old films on demand and some great TV box sets. There is no contract so it's only a monthly fee (about the cost of 2 or 3 movies or TV episodes) when you use it. Love film is free with Amazon prime membership. Both offer a better on dans service than BT (IMO). So there is the point. YV with BT on demand isn't as attractive as having better on demand services on the box.
Not that it matters too much anymore with decent smart Tvs. IMO YV will die out unless it moves the platform into smart Tvs or improves its offer of services.
As for sky+. It is faster, better UI, has more to offer, but it's too expensive in comparison to YV.
My YV box is also flakey and BT only offer a reasonable price if I'm continuity in contract with them.
So, bye bye YV hello Sky (if I can negotiate a good enough deal!).
pointless waiting for this any longer. I am ditching YouView partly for this reason. I just don't want an additional box just for the catch-up services. Plus, I think YouView's USP is a great idea poorly executed. Scrolling back in time in the guide is of no use unless you can access the program you have just missed right away, or lookup the program, not the channel and the time it was last aired.
Looks like Netflix is coming to YouView as per this report in the financial times
Hopefully when Netflix arrives on the YouView platform its available to all rather than just BT and TalkTalk customers. Feeling a little left behind being a retail box user
Looks like it's a two-pronged strategy, available across YouView as a whole, plus:
"Netflix is also in talks to sign commercial arrangements with BT and TalkTalk that would bundle subscriptions into their customer offers in exchange for a minimum revenue guarantee."
The FT link pops up a subscribe page, but if you Google it, it comes up in the clear:
Netflix in deal with BT-backed YouView
By Daniel Thomas and Henry Mance
Netflix is to sign a deal with UK telecoms groups, including BT and TalkTalk, to make its television shows and films available on their set-top boxes.
The US streaming service has agreed a partnership with YouView, the internet TV platform that is owned by a consortium of telecoms groups and broadcasters, including the BBC, Channel 4 and Channel 5.
Netflix is expected to be available on the platform by the end of the year, according to people familiar with the talks. That would leave BSkyB, with its 11m TV subscribers, as the only pay-TV provider in the UK to avoid on-demand services by other content owners.
Telecoms groups have had mixed views about supporting Netflix, which consumes considerable broadband bandwidth and often competes with their own attempts to create TV services.
BSkyB is yet to make its programmes available on Netflix in the UK, and Sky Atlantic, its flagship drama channel, competes with the streaming service’s high-end programming such as Orange Is The New Black.
BT has so far focused its efforts in pay-TV on sports content, rather than competing with Sky and Netflix on entertainment programming. TalkTalk does not generate any of its own content, while two other YouView partners – Channel 4 and the BBC – have made some of their old programmes available on the service.
Netflix is also in talks to sign commercial arrangements with BT and TalkTalk that would bundle subscriptions into their customer offers in exchange for a minimum revenue guarantee.
The US group has struck similar deals with internet service providers in other European markets, including Deutsche Telekom in Germany and Bouygues in France. Although already available online and through its app, access to the set-top box gives Netflix a means into the living rooms for consumers who would rather use and watch TV sets.
YouView had a slow start following arguments among its shareholders, although those appear to have been resolved as BT and TalkTalk step up their TV offerings on the platform. It is planning to launch a new low-cost set-top box later this year, which will retail at little more than £100, although most sales are likely to continue to be bundled as part of a BT or TalkTalk subscription.
Netflix has used exclusive access to hit US drama series such as Breaking Bad and the remake of House of Cards to push its service in the UK, and already has a similar deal with Virgin Media.
Purely a personal view, but we have Amazon via the old LF app on the TV, and Netflix via chromecast. Of the two, I maybe use Amazon once a month, and Netflix nightly. We're completely happy with YV as a recorder plus catch-up box.
NetFlix would be a nice addition but for me personally Amazon would be better. Netflix seems to be near ubiquitous already, as such I already have access to it on my TV via four different devices including the TVs app portal.
By contrast Amazon (Lovefim) seems almost as rare as ITV player. I have access to Amazon through my Xbox360 but it's connected via VGA and it's not full HD. Amazon seem to be going down a route of trying to drive device sales by limiting access to their app on competing devices. Not a good move in my opinion. There's no way I would buy an Amazon branded device just to use their video app.
NetFlix would be a nice addition but for me personally Amazon would be better. Netflix seems to be near ubiquitous already, as such I already have access to it on my TV via four different devices including the TVs app portal.
By contrast Amazon (Lovefim) seems almost as rare as ITV player. I have access to Amazon through my Xbox360 but it's connected via VGA and it's not full HD. Amazon seem to be going down a route of trying to drive device sales by limiting access to their app on competing devices. Not a good move in my opinion. There's no way I would buy an Amazon branded device just to use their video app.
Amazon is available online. I access it on a computer, linked to my TV by HDMI cable, as I do with Blinkbox. I haven't even bothered playing Prime player on my Kindle Fire, though I could do - and also link to the TV in the same way.
NetFlix would be a nice addition but for me personally Amazon would be better. Netflix seems to be near ubiquitous already, as such I already have access to it on my TV via four different devices including the TVs app portal.
By contrast Amazon (Lovefim) seems almost as rare as ITV player. I have access to Amazon through my Xbox360 but it's connected via VGA and it's not full HD. Amazon seem to be going down a route of trying to drive device sales by limiting access to their app on competing devices. Not a good move in my opinion. There's no way I would buy an Amazon branded device just to use their video app.
Are the introduction of new players such as Netflix dependent on the introduction of the next Humax feature release (19) or can it simply be added as a player to the existing feature release 17 & 18 levels ?
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Everyone should check out:
http://community.youview.com/youview/...
and
http://community.youview.com/youview/...
That's been denied in the past, but I remain to be convinced.
Why cant netflix be added? Would make such a big difference...
However, this is true of catchup anywhere, not just on YouView, which gets them as fast as any other catchup service., so it's all down to the broadcasters, not YouView, and will affect any platform you use. As far as I know. But perhaps you know different?
As regards lookup, the YouView Search is exceptionally powerful and will indeed allow you to look up the programme by name, irregardless of what channel, or time, it was on.
And no other provider provides this (again, as far as I know, though perhaps you know different?)
Actually, it would greatly help if the results of this search did list channel and time(s) of transmission - you try figuring out for 'Homes Under the Hammer', say, which one of the proffered episodes is the one you missed from this morning - but it doesn't.
As regards LoveFlix and NetFilm, I suspect no conspiracy, but rather a simple standoff where YouView want the providers of these services to jump through YouView's player specification hoops, and these providers want YouView to supply the requisite middleware to them.
Or maybe NetFlix, notoriously picky about the quality of the delivered service, have decided the YouView box/service just isn't up to it?
But yes, YouView's dream of 'one box to rule them all' never came to fruition, and probably never will now, so we have to pick and choose from the smorgasbord of devices out there, when we were all hoping that YouView's table d'hôte would feed us all we needed.
Sad days.....
The YouView box is still IMO the best PVR on the market and we use it as such. We've just ditched Sky+ after a year's free full service (long story involving O2 switching their internet service to Sky) and, to be perfectly frank, in that year we watched Sky less than 1% of the time.
The Sky+ box would only allow us to watch and/or record on 1 channel at a time and what's even more ball-aching for me is those programmes I did record on it I am now no longer able to watch because I don't have an active Sky+ contract.
So what that YV doesn't have those services?
'The Sky+ box would only allow us to watch and/or record on 1 channel at a time'
But on this page:-
http://www.sky.com/products/kit/sky-p...
it says
TV when it suits you: Record two shows at once, even while watching another one you've already recorded
Can you explain the discrepancy here?
I agree with your old film comment, but Netflix has some good old films on demand and some great TV box sets. There is no contract so it's only a monthly fee (about the cost of 2 or 3 movies or TV episodes) when you use it. Love film is free with Amazon prime membership. Both offer a better on dans service than BT (IMO). So there is the point. YV with BT on demand isn't as attractive as having better on demand services on the box.
Not that it matters too much anymore with decent smart Tvs. IMO YV will die out unless it moves the platform into smart Tvs or improves its offer of services.
As for sky+. It is faster, better UI, has more to offer, but it's too expensive in comparison to YV.
My YV box is also flakey and BT only offer a reasonable price if I'm continuity in contract with them.
So, bye bye YV hello Sky (if I can negotiate a good enough deal!).
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/817d0758-47...
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/817d0758-47...
The telegraph have stated that it is "expected in weeks" but does the FT add any more information? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/11119660/YouView-ap...
"Netflix is also in talks to sign commercial arrangements with BT and TalkTalk that would bundle subscriptions into their customer offers in exchange for a minimum revenue guarantee."
Netflix in deal with BT-backed YouView
By Daniel Thomas and Henry Mance
Netflix is to sign a deal with UK telecoms groups, including BT and TalkTalk, to make its television shows and films available on their set-top boxes.
The US streaming service has agreed a partnership with YouView, the internet TV platform that is owned by a consortium of telecoms groups and broadcasters, including the BBC, Channel 4 and Channel 5.
Netflix is expected to be available on the platform by the end of the year, according to people familiar with the talks. That would leave BSkyB, with its 11m TV subscribers, as the only pay-TV provider in the UK to avoid on-demand services by other content owners.
Telecoms groups have had mixed views about supporting Netflix, which consumes considerable broadband bandwidth and often competes with their own attempts to create TV services.
BSkyB is yet to make its programmes available on Netflix in the UK, and Sky Atlantic, its flagship drama channel, competes with the streaming service’s high-end programming such as Orange Is The New Black.
BT has so far focused its efforts in pay-TV on sports content, rather than competing with Sky and Netflix on entertainment programming. TalkTalk does not generate any of its own content, while two other YouView partners – Channel 4 and the BBC – have made some of their old programmes available on the service.
Netflix is also in talks to sign commercial arrangements with BT and TalkTalk that would bundle subscriptions into their customer offers in exchange for a minimum revenue guarantee.
The US group has struck similar deals with internet service providers in other European markets, including Deutsche Telekom in Germany and Bouygues in France. Although already available online and through its app, access to the set-top box gives Netflix a means into the living rooms for consumers who would rather use and watch TV sets.
YouView had a slow start following arguments among its shareholders, although those appear to have been resolved as BT and TalkTalk step up their TV offerings on the platform. It is planning to launch a new low-cost set-top box later this year, which will retail at little more than £100, although most sales are likely to continue to be bundled as part of a BT or TalkTalk subscription.
Netflix has used exclusive access to hit US drama series such as Breaking Bad and the remake of House of Cards to push its service in the UK, and already has a similar deal with Virgin Media.
Purely a personal view, but we have Amazon via the old LF app on the TV, and Netflix via chromecast. Of the two, I maybe use Amazon once a month, and Netflix nightly. We're completely happy with YV as a recorder plus catch-up box.
By contrast Amazon (Lovefim) seems almost as rare as ITV player. I have access to Amazon through my Xbox360 but it's connected via VGA and it's not full HD. Amazon seem to be going down a route of trying to drive device sales by limiting access to their app on competing devices. Not a good move in my opinion. There's no way I would buy an Amazon branded device just to use their video app.