>>it seems that no amount of criticism of Martin's acerbic posting style ever seems to get through to him, he's always right in his own mind.
It's not actually your role here to criticise how people post, indeed doing so is a breach of the forum rules:
"Do not make uninvited remarks about typos, duplicate posts, posting styles, etc"
Honestly, Martin, you exemplify my point. "uninvited remarks" about "posting styles" where you quote it from the forum rules" obviously doesn't mean to cover "rudeness is OK". Your style of posting inevitably invites remarks, but then you know that don't you?
Don't go, we need to you to lighten the mood sometimes. I was particularly impressed when you went into melt down that your usual bad-typing/dodgy-spelling suddenly disappeared when it came to the word "condescending". :-) I'd be very interested to know (given the time of day that you strayed from the straight and narrow) was alcohol a contributing factor? I used to be guilty of this and have often thought that boxes that can send messages should have some kind of breath-test device to inhibit uninhibited usage.
FWIW I don't think anyone should leave the forum, I just think people need to:
a) stop needling others about the way they phrase posts b) stop assuming/claiming people mean something bad/negative/insulting by their comments c) if there's any doubt about b) contact the moderators and ask them to make a ruling
Whenever this is said people nod sagely and then within a few days a small group of people are back commenting on other people's phraseology, style, spelling or needlessly implying that they're making up stuff unless they post vast amounts of supporting info.
There are times when I wonder if a certain two or three posters are actually the same person or in contact off-board because the disruption and up-voting of the snide comments often looks coordinated.
There have been instances where almost no-one has posted for hours and then one of a group makes a pop at someone and then, hey presto!, the other 3 or 4 turn up to clap them and give them a star.
i see nothing wrong with discussing or even debating opinions and the merits of suggestions, but if people keep poking at how people say things, questioning their motives and/or honesty then they're just going to keep causing bad feeling and stir up rows.
"There are times when I wonder if a certain two or three posters are actually the same person or in contact off-board because the disruption and up-voting of the snide comments often looks coordinated."
"There are times when I wonder if a certain two or three posters are actually the same person or in contact off-board because the disruption and up-voting of the snide comments often looks coordinated."
Methinks paranoia is creeping in now!
>> Methinks paranoia is creeping in now!
I was going to post a paranoia joke, but then decided people would claim I was being serious...
"There are times when I wonder if a certain two or three posters are actually the same person or in contact off-board because the disruption and up-voting of the snide comments often looks coordinated."
Methinks paranoia is creeping in now!
"There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."
"There are times when I wonder if a certain two or three posters are actually the same person or in contact off-board because the disruption and up-voting of the snide comments often looks coordinated."
i wasent going re comment as when i read the comments with the intention of apologizing for my behavior to martin, i see he continues to accept no blame atall and has insisted he will carry on regardless of my or anyone elses feelings.
but some good points were made and the main been i think the main issue here is lack of official responses from you YouView team. this then leads to guessing on all sides of the discussion and with some presenting there view as clear fact from youview with no evidence of that.
now i understand YouView is a quite small team but and not everything can be discussed in length or nothing would get done but when some issues have continued to be brought up or disscused i dont think it would take too long to set everyone straight.
also gwatuk yes sir you are correct some beers did have a say in my behavior last night along with the fact i am diagnosed schizoaffective which sometimes leads me to snaping in some glorious styles. this is noway a excuse just a explanation to the way i can behave at some times and the blame is still mine.
again i do apoligise to the forum members who were offended and lets be honist im sure one or two had a little giggle.
edit: just had a email from YouView asking me to stay and this does show they do infact read the forums and not as it sometimes feels that they dont. so for this reasion i shall continue lurking and pop a bit in from time to time.
i have to say its good that youview do allow such freedom on there own forum and for this they should be commended but a bit more in the responses would be welcomed by all i think.
i wasent going re comment as when i read the comments with the intention of apologizing for my behavior to martin, i see he continues to accept no blame atall and has insisted he will carry on regardless of my or anyone elses feelings.
but some good points were made and the main been i think the main issue here is lack of official responses from you YouView team. this then leads to guessing on all sides of the discussion and with some presenting there view as clear fact from youview with no evidence of that.
now i understand YouView is a quite small team but and not everything can be discussed in length or nothing would get done but when some issues have continued to be brought up or disscused i dont think it would take too long to set everyone straight.
also gwatuk yes sir you are correct some beers did have a say in my behavior last night along with the fact i am diagnosed schizoaffective which sometimes leads me to snaping in some glorious styles. this is noway a excuse just a explanation to the way i can behave at some times and the blame is still mine.
again i do apoligise to the forum members who were offended and lets be honist im sure one or two had a little giggle.
edit: just had a email from YouView asking me to stay and this does show they do infact read the forums and not as it sometimes feels that they dont. so for this reasion i shall continue lurking and pop a bit in from time to time.
i have to say its good that youview do allow such freedom on there own forum and for this they should be commended but a bit more in the responses would be welcomed by all i think.
edit: just had a email from YouView asking me to stay and this does show they do infact read the forums and not as it sometimes feels that they dont. so for this reasion i shall continue lurking and pop a bit in from time to time.
i have to say its good that youview do allow such freedom on there own forum and for this they should be commended but a bit more in the responses would be welcomed by all i think.
ok now getting over myself Madcotto (diva) out. -----------------------------------------------------------------
I woke up this morning to an automated YouView email informing me my post from last night had been deleted. Which, to be honest, I expected.
However, I have just recieved another YouView hand-written email, of a more personal nature.
Good to know they care.
And nice to have you back.
I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
i wasent going re comment as when i read the comments with the intention of apologizing for my behavior to martin, i see he continues to accept no blame atall and has insisted he will carry on regardless of my or anyone elses feelings.
but some good points were made and the main been i think the main issue here is lack of official responses from you YouView team. this then leads to guessing on all sides of the discussion and with some presenting there view as clear fact from youview with no evidence of that.
now i understand YouView is a quite small team but and not everything can be discussed in length or nothing would get done but when some issues have continued to be brought up or disscused i dont think it would take too long to set everyone straight.
also gwatuk yes sir you are correct some beers did have a say in my behavior last night along with the fact i am diagnosed schizoaffective which sometimes leads me to snaping in some glorious styles. this is noway a excuse just a explanation to the way i can behave at some times and the blame is still mine.
again i do apoligise to the forum members who were offended and lets be honist im sure one or two had a little giggle.
edit: just had a email from YouView asking me to stay and this does show they do infact read the forums and not as it sometimes feels that they dont. so for this reasion i shall continue lurking and pop a bit in from time to time.
i have to say its good that youview do allow such freedom on there own forum and for this they should be commended but a bit more in the responses would be welcomed by all i think.
i wasent going re comment as when i read the comments with the intention of apologizing for my behavior to martin, i see he continues to accept no blame atall and has insisted he will carry on regardless of my or anyone elses feelings.
but some good points were made and the main been i think the main issue here is lack of official responses from you YouView team. this then leads to guessing on all sides of the discussion and with some presenting there view as clear fact from youview with no evidence of that.
now i understand YouView is a quite small team but and not everything can be discussed in length or nothing would get done but when some issues have continued to be brought up or disscused i dont think it would take too long to set everyone straight.
also gwatuk yes sir you are correct some beers did have a say in my behavior last night along with the fact i am diagnosed schizoaffective which sometimes leads me to snaping in some glorious styles. this is noway a excuse just a explanation to the way i can behave at some times and the blame is still mine.
again i do apoligise to the forum members who were offended and lets be honist im sure one or two had a little giggle.
edit: just had a email from YouView asking me to stay and this does show they do infact read the forums and not as it sometimes feels that they dont. so for this reasion i shall continue lurking and pop a bit in from time to time.
i have to say its good that youview do allow such freedom on there own forum and for this they should be commended but a bit more in the responses would be welcomed by all i think.
i wasent going re comment as when i read the comments with the intention of apologizing for my behavior to martin, i see he continues to accept no blame atall and has insisted he will carry on regardless of my or anyone elses feelings.
but some good points were made and the main been i think the main issue here is lack of official responses from you YouView team. this then leads to guessing on all sides of the discussion and with some presenting there view as clear fact from youview with no evidence of that.
now i understand YouView is a quite small team but and not everything can be discussed in length or nothing would get done but when some issues have continued to be brought up or disscused i dont think it would take too long to set everyone straight.
also gwatuk yes sir you are correct some beers did have a say in my behavior last night along with the fact i am diagnosed schizoaffective which sometimes leads me to snaping in some glorious styles. this is noway a excuse just a explanation to the way i can behave at some times and the blame is still mine.
again i do apoligise to the forum members who were offended and lets be honist im sure one or two had a little giggle.
edit: just had a email from YouView asking me to stay and this does show they do infact read the forums and not as it sometimes feels that they dont. so for this reasion i shall continue lurking and pop a bit in from time to time.
i have to say its good that youview do allow such freedom on there own forum and for this they should be commended but a bit more in the responses would be welcomed by all i think.
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It's not actually your role here to criticise how people post, indeed doing so is a breach of the forum rules:
"Do not make uninvited remarks about typos, duplicate posts, posting styles, etc"
Your style of posting inevitably invites remarks, but then you know that don't you?
And yet curiously, it seems OK if you're the poster?
Don't go, we need to you to lighten the mood sometimes.
I was particularly impressed when you went into melt down that your usual bad-typing/dodgy-spelling suddenly disappeared when it came to the word "condescending". :-)
I'd be very interested to know (given the time of day that you strayed from the straight and narrow) was alcohol a contributing factor?
I used to be guilty of this and have often thought that boxes that can send messages should have some kind of breath-test device to inhibit uninhibited usage.
a) stop needling others about the way they phrase posts
b) stop assuming/claiming people mean something bad/negative/insulting by their comments
c) if there's any doubt about b) contact the moderators and ask them to make a ruling
Whenever this is said people nod sagely and then within a few days a small group of people are back commenting on other people's phraseology, style, spelling or needlessly implying that they're making up stuff unless they post vast amounts of supporting info.
There are times when I wonder if a certain two or three posters are actually the same person or in contact off-board because the disruption and up-voting of the snide comments often looks coordinated.
There have been instances where almost no-one has posted for hours and then one of a group makes a pop at someone and then, hey presto!, the other 3 or 4 turn up to clap them and give them a star.
i see nothing wrong with discussing or even debating opinions and the merits of suggestions, but if people keep poking at how people say things, questioning their motives and/or honesty then they're just going to keep causing bad feeling and stir up rows.
Methinks paranoia is creeping in now!
I was going to post a paranoia joke, but then decided people would claim I was being serious...
;-)
but some good points were made and the main been i think the main issue here is lack of official responses from you YouView team. this then leads to guessing on all sides of the discussion and with some presenting there view as clear fact from youview with no evidence of that.
now i understand YouView is a quite small team but and not everything can be discussed in length or nothing would get done
also gwatuk yes sir you are correct some beers did have a say in my behavior last night along with the fact i am diagnosed schizoaffective which sometimes leads me to snaping in some glorious styles. this is noway a excuse just a explanation to the way i can behave at some times and the blame is still mine.
again i do apoligise to the forum members who were offended and lets be honist im sure one or two had a little giggle.
edit: just had a email from YouView asking me to stay and this does show they do infact read the forums and not as it sometimes feels that they dont. so for this reasion i shall continue lurking and pop a bit in from time to time.
i have to say its good that youview do allow such freedom on there own forum and for this they should be commended but a bit more in the responses would be welcomed by all i think.
ok now getting over myself Madcotto (diva) out.
edit: just had a email from YouView asking me to stay and this does show they do infact read the forums and not as it sometimes feels that they dont. so for this reasion i shall continue lurking and pop a bit in from time to time.
i have to say its good that youview do allow such freedom on there own forum and for this they should be commended but a bit more in the responses would be welcomed by all i think.
ok now getting over myself Madcotto (diva) out.
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I woke up this morning to an automated YouView email informing me my post from last night had been deleted. Which, to be honest, I expected.
However, I have just recieved another YouView hand-written email, of a more personal nature.
Good to know they care.
And nice to have you back.