How can I get rid of the lady who is giving sign language on my screen. I have tried all the usual t

Dianne Christopher1Dianne Christopher1 Member Posts: 3
edited 13 August 2020, 1:36PM in Archived Posts
I was watching a recording and this lady doing sign language stayed in the corner of my screen, yet I had changed nothing on my remote or tv.. It ruined the programme for me.
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  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭
    edited 10 March 2017, 12:54AM
    There are a limited number of programmes, usually transmitted late, where signing takes place like this. It is provided by the broadcaster as a service to people with severe hearing difficulties, it is part of the transmission and cannot be varied by the viewer. These are usually repeats, so you should be able to find a version where the signing is not present. And perhaps show a little more tolerance and understanding?
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,804 ✭✭✭
    edited 6 March 2017, 10:48PM
    With any such issue, it pays, if you can, to look at the same channel on your TV. This will immediately tell you if you have a YouView issue or not.

    For instance, 80 will give you signed Breakfast. The remedy is to switch to 1 or 101 in this case, on YouView or TV.
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • alal Member, Super User Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭
    edited 5 March 2017, 2:28PM
    I'm surprised it still works this way. It must be very easy to overlay the signers on a second video track similarly to a second video or audio track on dvd.
  • AnaglyptaAnaglypta Member, Super User Posts: 871 ✭✭✭
    edited 17 February 2017, 1:01PM
    The thing about accessibility is that it must be accessible. So signing has to be broadcast on mainstream TV.
    "Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - George S. Patton
  • ScuttlebroomScuttlebroom Member Posts: 279 ✭
    edited 19 April 2016, 10:15AM
    This has nothing to do with YouView, it is detailed here on Ofcom's website: New arrangements for signing on some TV channels

    If you look on the EPG (Or in the Radio Times) you will see the following symbol in brackets: (SL)

    This denotes a Sign Language broadcast, and as Redchiz says, they are usually transmitted late in the evening.
  • sam1sam1 Member Posts: 1,182 ✭✭
    edited 11 September 2014, 6:14PM
    It would be useful if PVRs (not just YouView ) would expand the options available when setting a recording, so that you could ask the box to look for a version that is:

    HD or SD or either
    SL or no SL or either
    Don't record unless sub-titled

    and maybe other choices I haven't thought of.
  • stuart621stuart621 Member Posts: 616
    edited 16 August 2013, 1:19PM
    al said:

    I'm surprised it still works this way. It must be very easy to overlay the signers on a second video track similarly to a second video or audio track on dvd.

    That would require two video streams. It may be easy on a DVD but this is broadcast TV.
  • Billy SonntagBilly Sonntag Member Posts: 1
    edited 28 January 2014, 12:06PM
    redchiz said:

    There are a limited number of programmes, usually transmitted late, where signing takes place like this. It is provided by the broadcaster as a service to people with severe hearing difficulties, it is part of the transmission and cannot be varied by the viewer. These are usually repeats, so you should be able to find a version where the signing is not present. And perhaps show a little more tolerance and understanding?

    Let's face it. Unless you're deaf sign language looks fairly ridiculous and is distracting as hell. Why not put subtitles on the screen? Comparatively few people are deaf. Why ruin programmes for everyone else?
  • drhowellsdrhowells Member Posts: 634 ✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 6:21PM
    redchiz said:

    There are a limited number of programmes, usually transmitted late, where signing takes place like this. It is provided by the broadcaster as a service to people with severe hearing difficulties, it is part of the transmission and cannot be varied by the viewer. These are usually repeats, so you should be able to find a version where the signing is not present. And perhaps show a little more tolerance and understanding?

    Wow is all I can say to that....
  • UnknownUnknown
    edited 8 January 2015, 4:54PM
    redchiz said:

    There are a limited number of programmes, usually transmitted late, where signing takes place like this. It is provided by the broadcaster as a service to people with severe hearing difficulties, it is part of the transmission and cannot be varied by the viewer. These are usually repeats, so you should be able to find a version where the signing is not present. And perhaps show a little more tolerance and understanding?

    drhowells - 
  • Julia DavisJulia Davis Member Posts: 1
    edited 19 March 2017, 10:46PM
    How do you know if a programme is going to have sign language before you record please?
  • StephenStephen Member, Super User Posts: 801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 11:55PM
    Julia Davis said:

    How do you know if a programme is going to have sign language before you record please?

    If you open the info panel with the i button on the remote, you will see [SL] for sign language. An example is Panorama at half past midnight tonight on BBC Two. It's also visible in the mobile app if you use that.
  • Jack GrebJack Greb Member Posts: 3 ✭
    edited 21 September 2015, 4:07PM
    redchiz said:

    There are a limited number of programmes, usually transmitted late, where signing takes place like this. It is provided by the broadcaster as a service to people with severe hearing difficulties, it is part of the transmission and cannot be varied by the viewer. These are usually repeats, so you should be able to find a version where the signing is not present. And perhaps show a little more tolerance and understanding?

    Patronizing aren't you?
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,804 ✭✭✭
    edited 22 January 2018, 11:08AM
    I do not know who you are directing this canard at, Mr Greb, but all new posters are well advised to read the Community Guidelines before posting.

    If you had, you would have seen :-

    12. Respect is the name of the game. You must respect your fellow members. Please refrain from inflammatory and defamatory comments, hostile or insulting interaction, as well as flaming, taunting, and general disrespect. - See more at: http://support.youview.com/articles/S...

    Let's keep it civil in here, shall we?
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • Jack GrebJack Greb Member Posts: 3 ✭
    edited 22 January 2018, 11:09AM
    I apologise for pointing out that the original replier was being patronizing. Could it not be said that to suggest to someone that they employ more tolerance and understanding when someone merely wants to turn off the program deaf and dumb sign aid is no less disrespectful than my flagging it as patronizing? If it had been directed at me i would have felt quite annoyed, and i imagine you would too.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,303 ✭✭✭
    edited 22 January 2018, 11:09AM
    Jack, three things here...
    It had already been pointed out in a more polite manor. Roy is correct in everything he has said and you were replying to a post that is two years old.
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • Jack GrebJack Greb Member Posts: 3 ✭
    edited 22 January 2018, 11:09AM
    Okay. Thank you. 
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,804 ✭✭✭
    edited 22 January 2018, 11:09AM
    Hi Jack

    OK, great to have you on board then. Do stick around, as there is a lot of good stuff here, the teacups are large, and the storms are usually nothing above a brief squall.

    And there is some context here - one of our then members was eye-wateringly insensitive to a poster who had shared some details of how he spent his personal time, and redchiz will have been anxious to ensure that any further insensitivity, intended or unintended, was firmly deprecated.

    You had to have been there....
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • Trevor DaddTrevor Dadd Member Posts: 1
    edited 19 March 2017, 10:46PM
    I have the same issue when watching Question Time. Cannot see how to stop it but I'm losing interest in this programme because it is so distracting.
  • StephenStephen Member, Super User Posts: 801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 11:55PM
    Trevor Dadd said:

    I have the same issue when watching Question Time. Cannot see how to stop it but I'm losing interest in this programme because it is so distracting.

    All of the above replies still apply! It's a limited number of repeats or a 'Sign Zone' that have signing overlaid by the broadcaster. Due to the way Freeview channels work, it's not something that can be turned off and on by the user (like subtitles), it either has to be there in the first place, or not.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,804 ✭✭✭
    edited 7 December 2016, 8:40AM
    Trevor Dadd said:

    I have the same issue when watching Question Time. Cannot see how to stop it but I'm losing interest in this programme because it is so distracting.

    And it does not happen on first broadcast of programmes like Question Time, just 2:30am repeats and the like.

    If you want or need to watch the programme at such a time since you cannot watch the first transmission, then perhaps you could record it to watch later, when the only gesticulations will come from members of the panel?
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • AnaglyptaAnaglypta Member, Super User Posts: 871 ✭✭✭
    edited 28 November 2016, 11:55AM
    Trevor Dadd said:

    I have the same issue when watching Question Time. Cannot see how to stop it but I'm losing interest in this programme because it is so distracting.

    Or indeed watch it when you like on iPlayer :-)
    "Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - George S. Patton
  • Stephen LewisStephen Lewis Member Posts: 3
    edited 19 March 2017, 10:46PM
    Found this thread as I'm wTching a recording of location,location. Location & there's a really distracting signing lady in the corner. I can't focus on the programme. Surely it should be optional.
  • StephenStephen Member, Super User Posts: 801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 11:55PM
    Stephen Lewis said:

    Found this thread as I'm wTching a recording of location,location. Location & there's a really distracting signing lady in the corner. I can't focus on the programme. Surely it should be optional.

    No, please read everything above.
    Due to the way Freeview channels work, it's not something that can be turned off and on by the user (like subtitles), it either has to be there in the first place, or not.
    It's part of the video stream, added to late-night repeats so deaf and hard-of-hearing people can enjoy the same programmes as their better-hearing friends can.
    I would guess the un-signed programme is long gone if you or the box decided to record the signed repeat, so your best bet to find a version without signing is to check iPlayer. Or YouView may give you a shortcut straight to the iPlayer On Demand version if you press the i button on your remote while you're watching the signed version.
  • drhowellsdrhowells Member Posts: 634 ✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 6:21PM
    Stephen Lewis said:

    Found this thread as I'm wTching a recording of location,location. Location & there's a really distracting signing lady in the corner. I can't focus on the programme. Surely it should be optional.

    If you read the thread then you will know that it is optional. You have chosen to watch a version of the program that has sign.The answer is in the first reply to the question.
  • Stephen LewisStephen Lewis Member Posts: 3
    edited 29 February 2016, 10:52PM
    Stephen Lewis said:

    Found this thread as I'm wTching a recording of location,location. Location & there's a really distracting signing lady in the corner. I can't focus on the programme. Surely it should be optional.

    It's a new episode on series record.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,804 ✭✭✭
    edited 7 December 2016, 8:40AM
    Stephen Lewis said:

    Found this thread as I'm wTching a recording of location,location. Location & there's a really distracting signing lady in the corner. I can't focus on the programme. Surely it should be optional.

    Date, time, and channel?

    And you are sure it's not just Kirsty being her usual enthusiastic self? :-)
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • Stephen LewisStephen Lewis Member Posts: 3
    edited 29 February 2016, 11:02PM
    Stephen Lewis said:

    Found this thread as I'm wTching a recording of location,location. Location & there's a really distracting signing lady in the corner. I can't focus on the programme. Surely it should be optional.

    Ha ha. Well it was recorded today so I thought it must be new as I wS out earlier, but I see it was broadcast at 4:20 today so probably an old one I'd missed. I don't know why series record picked it up though.
  • StephenStephen Member, Super User Posts: 801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 11:55PM
    Stephen Lewis said:

    Found this thread as I'm wTching a recording of location,location. Location & there's a really distracting signing lady in the corner. I can't focus on the programme. Surely it should be optional.

    It may have tried to record a repeat if the recording of the initial broadcast failed (or was only partial) due to dodgy signal, power loss, cosmic rays, etc.
  • Toby4Toby4 Member Posts: 1 ✭
    edited 22 January 2018, 11:12AM
    Someone tell me how to sort this out, it's doin mans head in! 
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