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  • edited 8 January 2015, 4:54PM
    scott said:

    not to question your sources BUT....

    'And last but not least, my information is BT Sport will finally be available to TalkTalks Boost users wef 01/08/14. Should be in HD too. But I do not know if they will be provided for free (like VM XL users do). All in all, progress.'

     

    Talk Talk TV is delivered over standard broadband lines, how many of thier internet channels are delivered in HD at the minute (other than the obvious FTA stuff)....

    I know you can SELECT either version of a on demand film or tv show but that is a totally different ball game to having a full blown channel....

    Yes - BT do actually say that some of their internet channels are HD, but TalkTalk don't. So it's hard to know the real story.
    (The Sky movie channels look pretty good though.)


  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,929Member ✭✭✭
    edited 26 February 2017, 2:39PM
    Sorry, I should have been clearer in what I said. TT's Live HD channels will apparently be via fibre only. HD content over ADSL will be VoD only, allegedly. But everyone should find out about the new packages after the channels become recordable. 
  • scottscott Posts: 1,812Member ✭✭✭
    edited 6 March 2017, 8:32AM
    You make it sound like they are going down BT's path of having a two tier system where certain channels are only available to fibre customers...With the amount of fibre customers talk talk have (mainly because there tv/fibre/phone package is actually more expensive than BT's) that could be dangerous...
  • edited 8 January 2015, 4:54PM
    scott said:

    You make it sound like they are going down BT's path of having a two tier system where certain channels are only available to fibre customers...With the amount of fibre customers talk talk have (mainly because there tv/fibre/phone package is actually more expensive than BT's) that could be dangerous...

    that could be dangerous...
    Indeed - they'll have me moaning extensively on their forum if they try and use this kind of policy to "persuade" me to upgrade to fibre.

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  • edited 8 January 2015, 4:54PM
    The story that broadbandchoices published yesterday was based on this press statement:
    BT can now offer a new and exciting way for customers to enjoy BT Sport on the TV.
    From May 4, customers will be able to call BT and order BT Sport 1, 2 and ESPN in standard definition streamed over copper broadband lines. Existing broadband customers will need a line of sufficient stability and a line speed of more than 5.25Mbps to qualify and new broadband customers will need a line speed of at least 6.25Mbps.
    The development means that customers now have another option for BT Sport, which will allow customers to choose BT’s preferred YouView set top box and to enjoy ESPN on the TV, rather than via the BT Sport App.
    Customers can only take the new multicast over copper service if they are not in an Infinity-enabled area. Where superfast fibre-based broadband is available, customers must upgrade to Infinity in order to watch BT Sport on the TV.
    (I have a suspicion that the date should have been May 14th.)

  • roger1roger1 Posts: 67Member
    edited 25 October 2014, 12:23PM
    The detail of the BT Sport "multicast over copper service" perhaps gives a clue to the direction of BT pricing in the future.  The service is free to qualifying BT TV customers as detailed above but is pitched as a discount to the standard price of £6.75 a month. This charge applies if you do not sign a new broadband contract when your existing one stops.
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,929Member ✭✭✭
    edited 26 February 2017, 2:39PM
    I've just recieved an email from BT -
    Hello,To say thank you for being with BT, we're giving you our three sports channels free for another season – and you don't need to do a thing.   When you signed up to BT Sport we gave you free HD, and we're extending that deal too – so you can continue to enjoy all of this season's action in stunning high definition.
    Do I like that!
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,929Member ✭✭✭
    edited 26 February 2017, 2:39PM
    There seems to be some disparity regarding the cost of BT Sport now. As far as I can gather -

    £0 for BT BB customers who are still in contract for BB.

    £0 for HD for BT BB customers who are still in contract for BB. £3 if your not.

    £6.75 for BT BB customers who are no longer in contract (with Sky or BT TV boxes).

    £12.00 for standalone Sky box users.

    £??  Virgin Media have yet to comment on next seasons prices.

    Can anyone confirm if I have the above correctly?
  • David8David8 Posts: 644Member ✭✭
    edited 6 March 2017, 2:50PM
    I can confirm the above is incorrect , I've had BT Infinity around 3 months now and added BT Sport onto my Sky box as soon as it went live I'm receiving BT Sport free however I'm being charged £3 for the channels in HD.
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,929Member ✭✭✭
    edited 26 February 2017, 2:39PM
    Thanks for that David. I often find users are a better source of info than BT. So -

    £0.00 for BT BB users using a Sky box.

    £3.00 for HD for BT BB users using a Sky box. Though those signing up before it started got 12 mths free HD. These tiered offerings are confusing to say the least.
  • David8David8 Posts: 644Member ✭✭
    edited 6 March 2017, 2:50PM
    It seems those subscribers who pay to take BT Sport are facing a price increase , most now have to pay £3 for the channels in HD and the subscription is increasing from £12 to £13.50 with HD subscribers costs now being £16.50.
  • scottscott Posts: 1,812Member ✭✭✭
    edited 29 November 2016, 11:48AM
    David8 said:

    It seems those subscribers who pay to take BT Sport are facing a price increase , most now have to pay £3 for the channels in HD and the subscription is increasing from £12 to £13.50 with HD subscribers costs now being £16.50.

    But (according to this) they can also take broadband free for a year and get BT Sport free for a year....
    http://assets.bt.com/v1/btmail/_2014/Sport/Espresso/2014-07-21/cell7/bt_espresso_cell7_online.html
  • scottscott Posts: 1,812Member ✭✭✭
    edited 29 November 2016, 11:48AM
    David8 said:

    It seems those subscribers who pay to take BT Sport are facing a price increase , most now have to pay £3 for the channels in HD and the subscription is increasing from £12 to £13.50 with HD subscribers costs now being £16.50.

    Will be more interesting to see what they do next season come the champions league for people with BT Broadband and how much they charge then...could put the non bt broadband costs close to £20....but more importantly how much will it cost me :)
  • Tom PritchardTom Pritchard Posts: 1Member
    edited 26 February 2017, 2:39PM

    I've got a standalone Youview box (purchased outright) and don't have a subscription. I also have BT Broadband and can stream BT Sport currently via my phone, laptop etc.

    Is there an option for me to view BT Sport (ideally in HD) directly through my Youview box right now, either as a channel or as an 'app', and if so, how much does it cost?


  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,929Member ✭✭✭
    edited 22 December 2016, 12:05AM

    I've got a standalone Youview box (purchased outright) and don't have a subscription. I also have BT Broadband and can stream BT Sport currently via my phone, laptop etc.

    Is there an option for me to view BT Sport (ideally in HD) directly through my Youview box right now, either as a channel or as an 'app', and if so, how much does it cost?


    Tom, its far easier if you just take BTs offer of a new G4 box with a 12 mth BT TV contract. Then you should get multiroom on your retail unit. Prices start from £5 a mth with a one off £35 fee. BT Sport included.* Or you can pay an extra £2 for BTs live channel package as well.* HD is £3.*

    *Fibre is required.
  • David8David8 Posts: 644Member ✭✭
    edited 6 March 2017, 10:48PM
    Line rental to increase to £16.99 on BT from December , a penny off £17 is getting silly still I suppose sport costs.
  • RoyRoy Posts: 14,330Member ✭✭✭
    edited 7 December 2016, 8:39AM
    David8 said:

    Line rental to increase to £16.99 on BT from December , a penny off £17 is getting silly still I suppose sport costs.

    So now my poor old mother, who hasn't got broadband and couldn't work it even if she had it, has got to help subsidise you sports freaks who aren't paying enough money to cover what BT have shelled out for all those rights?

    I think OFCOM should intervene if that's the case.
    ‘Does television exist for us to watch, or do we exist to watch television?’ - Noah Hawley
  • scottscott Posts: 1,812Member ✭✭✭
    edited 29 November 2016, 11:48AM
    David8 said:

    Line rental to increase to £16.99 on BT from December , a penny off £17 is getting silly still I suppose sport costs.

    Funny I am not sure where the sport subsidy in my gas and electricity is because they put there prices up as well... The extra cost is from having to take on extra engineers to make sure they meet the time frames ofcom imposed, so that is what ofcom intervening does but you all keep kidding yourselves...
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,929Member ✭✭✭
    edited 22 December 2016, 12:05AM
    David8 said:

    Line rental to increase to £16.99 on BT from December , a penny off £17 is getting silly still I suppose sport costs.

    BT line rental is nothing to do with BT Sport. And nor does it subsidise it either. Its the BB packages that do that.
  • David8David8 Posts: 644Member ✭✭
    edited 15 December 2016, 2:16PM
    David8 said:

    Line rental to increase to £16.99 on BT from December , a penny off £17 is getting silly still I suppose sport costs.

    Just like Sky's higher than normal TV increases are nothing to do with its free broadband for two years promotion ;-) one way or another you pay nothings free.....
  • scottscott Posts: 1,812Member ✭✭✭
    edited 29 November 2016, 11:48AM
    David8 said:

    Line rental to increase to £16.99 on BT from December , a penny off £17 is getting silly still I suppose sport costs.

    There will always be offers, there will always be price rises, that unfortunately is a fact of life.. I think you will find the wholesale line rental price is already strictly controlled by OFCOM and has been for some time...
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,929Member ✭✭✭
    edited 6 March 2017, 10:48PM
    I see BT have been granted an extra Television Broadcast License - BT Sport Extra 1.

    http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-broadcast-licences/updates/082014

    Don't like the name, though.
  • RoyRoy Posts: 14,330Member ✭✭✭
    edited 7 December 2016, 8:39AM
    Visionman said:

    I see BT have been granted an extra Television Broadcast License - BT Sport Extra 1.

    http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-broadcast-licences/updates/082014

    Don't like the name, though.

    The link is to a fairly incomprehensible site that details the comings and goings of a range of TV channels I've never seen, nor never heard of.

    Is there some secret 'dark' Freeview that I can't access where people are enjoying these, or what?
    ‘Does television exist for us to watch, or do we exist to watch television?’ - Noah Hawley
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,929Member ✭✭✭
    edited 22 December 2016, 12:05AM
    Visionman said:

    I see BT have been granted an extra Television Broadcast License - BT Sport Extra 1.

    http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-broadcast-licences/updates/082014

    Don't like the name, though.

    Well, in regard to TLCS's, they are channels that are broadcast via satellite, cable or the internet.

    http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-broadcast-licences/tlcs/

    Freeview channels are granted DTPS's – Digital Television Programme Service Licences.

    http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-broadcast-licences/dtps-dtas/
  • RoyRoy Posts: 14,330Member ✭✭✭
    edited 7 December 2016, 8:39AM
    Visionman said:

    I see BT have been granted an extra Television Broadcast License - BT Sport Extra 1.

    http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-broadcast-licences/updates/082014

    Don't like the name, though.

    Ah - thank you.
    ‘Does television exist for us to watch, or do we exist to watch television?’ - Noah Hawley
  • David8David8 Posts: 644Member ✭✭
    edited 15 December 2016, 2:16PM
    Visionman said:

    I see BT have been granted an extra Television Broadcast License - BT Sport Extra 1.

    http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-broadcast-licences/updates/082014

    Don't like the name, though.

    I suppose this is for the champions league content we now have to pay for , gutted ITV lost it another blow to FTA football. Less FTA Champions League and Europa League , progress eh!!!!!!!
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,929Member ✭✭✭
    edited 22 December 2016, 12:05AM
    Visionman said:

    I see BT have been granted an extra Television Broadcast License - BT Sport Extra 1.

    http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-broadcast-licences/updates/082014

    Don't like the name, though.

    I agree about the loss of FTA coverage. Even though I'm a BT TV subscriber and even with some free to air games, I wasn't happy with this deal. I dislike monopolies with a passion. I blame UEFA for taking the money and running. Its not looking good for Sky either with the next Premier League auction.
  • scottscott Posts: 1,812Member ✭✭✭
    edited 29 November 2016, 11:48AM
    Visionman said:

    I see BT have been granted an extra Television Broadcast License - BT Sport Extra 1.

    http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-broadcast-licences/updates/082014

    Don't like the name, though.

    At the end of the day everybody would love to just be able to watch whatever sports they want on FTA TV but that ship sailed 15 years ago and the only people to blame are joe public that have signed up in their millions to pay sky to watch. If 15 years ago nobody had paid sky to watch sports they wouldn't have been able to throw money at sports rights and many more things would still be FTA, but you can't really blame a business for trying to create a money market.
  • David8David8 Posts: 644Member ✭✭
    edited 15 December 2016, 2:16PM
    Visionman said:

    I see BT have been granted an extra Television Broadcast License - BT Sport Extra 1.

    http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-broadcast-licences/updates/082014

    Don't like the name, though.

    Whoever wins the premier league rights will be paying eye watering amounts to do so , expect higher bills much higher.
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,929Member ✭✭✭
    edited 22 December 2016, 12:05AM
    Visionman said:

    I see BT have been granted an extra Television Broadcast License - BT Sport Extra 1.

    http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-broadcast-licences/updates/082014

    Don't like the name, though.

    Its been estimated by City Analysts that Skys maximum bid is £2.2b, maybe £2.3. Any more than that and they would be moving into loss-leader territory. Whats worth noting though is that the Premier would be within their rights to change the package line ups and amount of games each may hold, to keep both parties involved. 
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