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  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 6 March 2017, 9:48PM
    BT Sport retains live Bundesliga and DFL.
    http://sport-onthebox.com/2016/06/14/bt-sport-retains-live-bundesliga-rights-to-2021/

    UFC on the other hand, isn't looking so good.
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  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭
    edited 29 November 2016, 10:48AM
    Visionman said:

    BT Sport retains live Bundesliga and DFL.
    http://sport-onthebox.com/2016/06/14/bt-sport-retains-live-bundesliga-rights-to-2021/

    UFC on the other hand, isn't looking so good.

    So where do you sources tell you it is likely to go..SKY.

    It is one of those that is nice to have but wouldn't ever choose a platform because of it. I don't mind but I would worry if SKY get it they could choose to make events like UFC 200 Pay to View which for people that do really like it could be a bit of an additional cost.

    It will all have to come out very soon as the contract ends at the end of July.

  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 21 December 2016, 11:06PM
    Visionman said:

    BT Sport retains live Bundesliga and DFL.
    http://sport-onthebox.com/2016/06/14/bt-sport-retains-live-bundesliga-rights-to-2021/

    UFC on the other hand, isn't looking so good.

    Heres an article from back in January about it, and all these are viable options -
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/ufc/27053/changing-channels-where-next-for-the-ufcs-uk-tv-deal/

    With number 4 being a strong possibility, and add Premier Sports, as they have apparently have shown an interest as well. 
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  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭
    edited 29 November 2016, 10:48AM
    Visionman said:

    BT Sport retains live Bundesliga and DFL.
    http://sport-onthebox.com/2016/06/14/bt-sport-retains-live-bundesliga-rights-to-2021/

    UFC on the other hand, isn't looking so good.

    but this article :-

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/ufc/1169184/ufc-entering-the-endgame-in-uk-tv-deal-negotiations/

    Quote :-

    And Elliott revealed the announcement of the UFC’s new broadcast deal could be
    imminent, with negotiations beginning to reach their conclusions.

    “I think we’re entering the endgame of it all and I think everyone’s keen to
    get it locked up as soon as we can,” he said.

    “We’ll have some news on that in the next three to four weeks, I would say.”"


    Would suggest to me it is more likely they are making final aggrements with a broadcast partner...

    It would also seem to suggest, as this was dated 10th May, that there was still some work going on considering it still hasn't yet been announced...
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 21 December 2016, 11:06PM
    Visionman said:

    BT Sport retains live Bundesliga and DFL.
    http://sport-onthebox.com/2016/06/14/bt-sport-retains-live-bundesliga-rights-to-2021/

    UFC on the other hand, isn't looking so good.

    UFC closing in on $4bn sale
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jun/16/ufc-sale-bids-reports-dana-white-china-media-capital

    But still no news on its next broadcast partner.
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  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,055 ✭✭✭
    edited 7 December 2016, 7:40AM
    Visionman said:

    BT Sport retains live Bundesliga and DFL.
    http://sport-onthebox.com/2016/06/14/bt-sport-retains-live-bundesliga-rights-to-2021/

    UFC on the other hand, isn't looking so good.

    I had no idea what UFC was, so I looked it up. I wish I hadn't. Ugh.
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  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 21 December 2016, 11:06PM
    Visionman said:

    BT Sport retains live Bundesliga and DFL.
    http://sport-onthebox.com/2016/06/14/bt-sport-retains-live-bundesliga-rights-to-2021/

    UFC on the other hand, isn't looking so good.

    Yes, it does split opinion like that. People either love it or hate it (a bit like boxing). But its still a $4bn UGH. And Dane White bought it for only $2m. Bargin......

    BARB viewing figures average out at approx 30,000 viewers (almost 3m in the US), but for technical reasons, those figures don't include BT TV or the BT Sport app. And most viewers actually watch it via the app. Far more than the above figure. But not far enough to be fleeced at renewal for it.... 
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  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 6 March 2017, 9:48PM
    "David>
    Is it correct that BT's multicast HD channels are only broadcast at 1440 x 1080i as opposed to 1920 x 1080i on Virgin Media and Sky?
    That would account for the noticeable difference , I always thought BT Sport looked better when I had it on my Sky box."

    With the impending launch of Sky Cinema, this new piece of information has come about -

    "There’s a new, improved HD picture as standard. Sky is using a new internal master format that provides a third more pixels and four times the number of colour shades of the current HD offered."
    https://www.avforums.com/news/sky-cinema-launching-ultra-hd.12685

    Which after much speculation, this reply was given  in regard to SKY's current HD broadcast standards -

    "Probably 1440 x 1080 (1.5m pixels) up-scaled to 1920 x 1080 (2m) [there's your missing 500,000 pixels] & they also state colour will have 4 extra shade levels (-4 bits?) so that sounds like another cut down putting back up rather than a bonus. 
    So it's possibly never been true 1080i & not full colour depth, but upscaled from under c. 30%"

    "Yep 1440x1080=1,555,200 and 1920x1080=2,073,600 and if you take 2,073,600/1,555,200=1.33333333 or 1 1/3 so yep there is the third more pixels. They are moving 1440x1080 masters to 1920x1080 ."
    https://www.avforums.com/threads/sky-cinema-launching-with-ultra-hd-movies-included.2034920/
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  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,055 ✭✭✭
    edited 7 December 2016, 7:40AM
    Visionman said:

    "David>
    Is it correct that BT's multicast HD channels are only broadcast at 1440 x 1080i as opposed to 1920 x 1080i on Virgin Media and Sky?
    That would account for the noticeable difference , I always thought BT Sport looked better when I had it on my Sky box."

    With the impending launch of Sky Cinema, this new piece of information has come about -

    "There’s a new, improved HD picture as standard. Sky is using a new internal master format that provides a third more pixels and four times the number of colour shades of the current HD offered."
    https://www.avforums.com/news/sky-cinema-launching-ultra-hd.12685

    Which after much speculation, this reply was given  in regard to SKY's current HD broadcast standards -

    "Probably 1440 x 1080 (1.5m pixels) up-scaled to 1920 x 1080 (2m) [there's your missing 500,000 pixels] & they also state colour will have 4 extra shade levels (-4 bits?) so that sounds like another cut down putting back up rather than a bonus. 
    So it's possibly never been true 1080i & not full colour depth, but upscaled from under c. 30%"

    "Yep 1440x1080=1,555,200 and 1920x1080=2,073,600 and if you take 2,073,600/1,555,200=1.33333333 or 1 1/3 so yep there is the third more pixels. They are moving 1440x1080 masters to 1920x1080 ."
    https://www.avforums.com/threads/sky-cinema-launching-with-ultra-hd-movies-included.2034920/

    It only take two bits to encode four more levels:-

    00 01 10 11

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  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 26 February 2017, 1:39PM
    OK... not BT Sport related but Sport and YV related TBS. We currently have the Euro match Croatia v Portugal on, on a BT G4 and a retail T2000. When ITV has gone to an advert break, both boxes have played out different adverts. I'm wondering why? As both are tuned to ITV HD 1?
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  • zulu17zulu17 Member, Super User Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭
    edited 14 December 2016, 9:35PM
    Visionman said:

    The Chief of engineering, BT Sport, Andy Beale, is going to be delivering a presentation on the current and future state of the UHD market at the TVBEurope summit, 28th June.  
    http://www.tvbeurope.com/channel-4-uktv-and-bt-sport-join-tvbeurope-2020/

    And Richard Halton, CEO of YouView, a previous director of Project Canvas, will be presenting as well, on how the traditional content ecosystem is changing to reflect the shift in consumer content consumption. 

    Are there any reports about what Andy Beale and Richard Halton presented or said yesterday ?
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 21 December 2016, 11:06PM
    Visionman said:

    The Chief of engineering, BT Sport, Andy Beale, is going to be delivering a presentation on the current and future state of the UHD market at the TVBEurope summit, 28th June.  
    http://www.tvbeurope.com/channel-4-uktv-and-bt-sport-join-tvbeurope-2020/

    And Richard Halton, CEO of YouView, a previous director of Project Canvas, will be presenting as well, on how the traditional content ecosystem is changing to reflect the shift in consumer content consumption. 

    Nothing as yet from anyone.
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  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 26 February 2017, 1:39PM
    There have been absolutely no reports from the 

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    that I can find. Anyone else?
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  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 6 March 2017, 1:50PM
    As reported elsewhere, Virgin Media in the Republic of Ireland have dropped BT Sport, which was included in the Eir (Setanta) Sports pack.
    http://www.balls.ie/football/explaining-why-you-wont-be-able-to-watch-bt-sport-any-longer-if-youre-a...
    Though Virgin Media have renewed in the UK.

    Scott also reports the UFC have renewed as well, but at double the cost to BT. No doubt this time with added caveats, so the UFC won't be able to do the dirty on them again. 
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  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭
    edited 29 November 2016, 10:48AM
    Visionman said:

    As reported elsewhere, Virgin Media in the Republic of Ireland have dropped BT Sport, which was included in the Eir (Setanta) Sports pack.
    http://www.balls.ie/football/explaining-why-you-wont-be-able-to-watch-bt-sport-any-longer-if-youre-a...
    Though Virgin Media have renewed in the UK.

    Scott also reports the UFC have renewed as well, but at double the cost to BT. No doubt this time with added caveats, so the UFC won't be able to do the dirty on them again. 

    Have you got any source quoting that virgin have renewed in the uk
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 21 December 2016, 11:06PM
    Visionman said:

    As reported elsewhere, Virgin Media in the Republic of Ireland have dropped BT Sport, which was included in the Eir (Setanta) Sports pack.
    http://www.balls.ie/football/explaining-why-you-wont-be-able-to-watch-bt-sport-any-longer-if-youre-a...
    Though Virgin Media have renewed in the UK.

    Scott also reports the UFC have renewed as well, but at double the cost to BT. No doubt this time with added caveats, so the UFC won't be able to do the dirty on them again. 

    Yes, every other billboard in Manchester city centre. lol. :)
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  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭
    edited 29 November 2016, 10:48AM
    Visionman said:

    As reported elsewhere, Virgin Media in the Republic of Ireland have dropped BT Sport, which was included in the Eir (Setanta) Sports pack.
    http://www.balls.ie/football/explaining-why-you-wont-be-able-to-watch-bt-sport-any-longer-if-youre-a...
    Though Virgin Media have renewed in the UK.

    Scott also reports the UFC have renewed as well, but at double the cost to BT. No doubt this time with added caveats, so the UFC won't be able to do the dirty on them again. 

    Anywhere on the net in writing.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 21 December 2016, 11:06PM
    Visionman said:

    As reported elsewhere, Virgin Media in the Republic of Ireland have dropped BT Sport, which was included in the Eir (Setanta) Sports pack.
    http://www.balls.ie/football/explaining-why-you-wont-be-able-to-watch-bt-sport-any-longer-if-youre-a...
    Though Virgin Media have renewed in the UK.

    Scott also reports the UFC have renewed as well, but at double the cost to BT. No doubt this time with added caveats, so the UFC won't be able to do the dirty on them again. 

    Yes they're advertising  it on their website as well, Sky Sports, BT Sport and Eurosport. All in HD. Bearing in mind the 30 day service change rule that date has passed. They've renewed.
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  • David8David8 Member Posts: 655 ✭✭
    edited 15 December 2016, 1:16PM
    Visionman said:

    As reported elsewhere, Virgin Media in the Republic of Ireland have dropped BT Sport, which was included in the Eir (Setanta) Sports pack.
    http://www.balls.ie/football/explaining-why-you-wont-be-able-to-watch-bt-sport-any-longer-if-youre-a...
    Though Virgin Media have renewed in the UK.

    Scott also reports the UFC have renewed as well, but at double the cost to BT. No doubt this time with added caveats, so the UFC won't be able to do the dirty on them again. 

    Scott do you have a link to the UFC info ? I've not seen anything.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 26 February 2017, 1:39PM
    I see BT Sport have renamed their channels -
    BT Sport Ultra HD becomes BT Sport 3 (HD)
    BT Sport Europe (HD) becomes BT Sport 4K UHD
    Which makes sense.

    I also note Vodaphone have just secured two TLCS (Television Licensable Content Services) IP channels for future broadcasting - 

    http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-broadcast-licences/updates/020816

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  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 6 March 2017, 9:48PM
    UFC - first comments on the deal, and there are some jems in here about the overall state of the IPTV market and live sport in general -
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/8/2/12341470/the-new-bt-sport-deal-precursor-of-the-post-zuffa-world
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  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,055 ✭✭✭
    edited 7 December 2016, 7:41AM
    Visionman said:

    UFC - first comments on the deal, and there are some jems in here about the overall state of the IPTV market and live sport in general -
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/8/2/12341470/the-new-bt-sport-deal-precursor-of-the-post-zuffa-world

    Cheers for the link, Visionman.

    The most interesting thing there, for me, was Sky launching mobile sometime this year.

    But I see that I am rather late to that party :-(

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31...
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  • David8David8 Member Posts: 655 ✭✭
    edited 15 December 2016, 1:16PM
    Visionman said:

    UFC - first comments on the deal, and there are some jems in here about the overall state of the IPTV market and live sport in general -
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/8/2/12341470/the-new-bt-sport-deal-precursor-of-the-post-zuffa-world

    Do the premier league bundle the streaming rights in with its contracts with BT Sports and Sky Sports ?
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 12:57PM
    Visionman said:

    UFC - first comments on the deal, and there are some jems in here about the overall state of the IPTV market and live sport in general -
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/8/2/12341470/the-new-bt-sport-deal-precursor-of-the-post-zuffa-world

    Yes.
  • David8David8 Member Posts: 655 ✭✭
    edited 15 December 2016, 1:16PM
    Visionman said:

    UFC - first comments on the deal, and there are some jems in here about the overall state of the IPTV market and live sport in general -
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/8/2/12341470/the-new-bt-sport-deal-precursor-of-the-post-zuffa-world

    Wonder if they'll ever consider changing this in the future and selling those rights separately ?

    I know in the US the NFL sell its Thursday night games to CBS and NBC but they've also sold separate streaming rights to Twitter.
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 12:57PM
    Visionman said:

    UFC - first comments on the deal, and there are some jems in here about the overall state of the IPTV market and live sport in general -
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/8/2/12341470/the-new-bt-sport-deal-precursor-of-the-post-zuffa-world

    I think there are some parallel conversations going on about rights with other sports. The thing is why would you pay gazillions without exclusivity? I don't know the details of the NFL arrangements you mention, but then again if I wanted to eat in front of the TV and fall asleep with boredom I already have F1.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 21 December 2016, 11:06PM
    Visionman said:

    UFC - first comments on the deal, and there are some jems in here about the overall state of the IPTV market and live sport in general -
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/8/2/12341470/the-new-bt-sport-deal-precursor-of-the-post-zuffa-world

    The streaming rights are interesting....
    And yes, they do sell them separately in a different form.

    TV rights holders get the live streaming rights bundled in. Then, sold separately, are the long and short form highlights package (think Sky Sports Sat night red button Match Choice). BT used to have these rights but as not many people accessed them they weren't very valuable. Plus Sky blew them out of the water in the last bidding auction anyway.
    But theres another much sought after package out there called live goal alerts (for mobiles and tablets).
    Yahoo and ESPN used to own these rights. When ESPN first bought them they made the package 'subscription only' and it was a disaster. Virtually no one signed up for it and they were losing considerable amounts of money. So they brought in a consultation firm, who recommended making the model free, via AD supported goal clips, which they did. Within 1 month of this happening, the app had 1.2m users who raved about the quality and reliability of it.
    Then in 2013 Along came News International, who blew all other bidders away with a staggering £10m acquisition. They then immediately made the app 'subscription only'  and guess what happened? It yet again was a disaster with virtually no one signing up for it and its been estimated they lost  £9m on the deal, even though in August 2015 they made it free again.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/21183426/sun-and-times-owner-buys-online-premier-league-rights
    Oh, and Match of the Day finally asked the EPL to include online rights with the TV highlights package show, which they did. Though MotD 2 had them included from the off.
    I hope thats not too long a post. :)
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  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭
    edited 20 December 2016, 12:57PM
    Visionman said:

    UFC - first comments on the deal, and there are some jems in here about the overall state of the IPTV market and live sport in general -
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/8/2/12341470/the-new-bt-sport-deal-precursor-of-the-post-zuffa-world

    Too long for what? Are there any streaming services for live EPL games available separately from the rights agreed with Sky and BT?
  • David8David8 Member Posts: 655 ✭✭
    edited 15 December 2016, 1:16PM
    Visionman said:

    UFC - first comments on the deal, and there are some jems in here about the overall state of the IPTV market and live sport in general -
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/8/2/12341470/the-new-bt-sport-deal-precursor-of-the-post-zuffa-world

    Not that I know of , whilst the US is a massively different thing the major sports bodies all sell their games via their own offerings as well as via broadcast and online partners. The MLB , NHL and NFL all have their own digital offerings which have every game included and vast archive offerings.

    I'd love to see the Premier League go down this line so I could finally cut pay tv all together.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭
    edited 21 December 2016, 11:06PM
    Visionman said:

    UFC - first comments on the deal, and there are some jems in here about the overall state of the IPTV market and live sport in general -
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/8/2/12341470/the-new-bt-sport-deal-precursor-of-the-post-zuffa-world

    No David, thats not going to happen. The US is a completely market which has no relevance for and in the UK. 
    Plus it should be noted the Sat 3pm blackout also applies to online offerings.
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