Small steps
Three days ago TalkTalk released a new version of Next-Gen to their trialists.
I've been hoping that someone would go public about this because I think there will be many members of this forum who are seeking some kind of reassurance that progress is being made.
It seems reasonable to assume that the important features that we want to see restored will be trialed before they are released.
So this new trial is an indication of where YouView are at.
This is from the TalkTalk forum, judge for yourselves...
I've been hoping that someone would go public about this because I think there will be many members of this forum who are seeking some kind of reassurance that progress is being made.
It seems reasonable to assume that the important features that we want to see restored will be trialed before they are released.
So this new trial is an indication of where YouView are at.
This is from the TalkTalk forum, judge for yourselves...
Hi All, have been playing with the latest version of the new interface. The guide still appears on the startup page but only lasts for 30 secs instead of 2+mins. That's an improvement but should have been removed. My personal opinion. My TV the thumbnails have increased in size allowing for better description. When entering a series recording, you are now taken to the earliest recording. Which is better than going to the Last one. When you end a recording you are taken to the main listing, you still have to enter the record to delete it. But at least you do go to the earliest recording. Hands up anyone Who opened a series recording and deleted the Last recording, just me then. All in all they are listening, I looking forward to seeing what further improvements are to come. Perhaps a list of recorded programs.
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Apologies to all the newbies on here (total respect) but it drives me nuts.
Seems like things are progressing, but yeah the focus should still return to the watched programme when exiting (after being given options for deletion etc of course). Also, the features that people miss should be reinstated, e.g. quick access to on demand options and upcoming episodes from the recorded programme, and the ability to jump x minutes into the recording should come back.
Seems like things are progressing, but yeah the focus should still return to the watched programme when exiting (after being given options for deletion etc of course). Also, the features that people miss should be reinstated, e.g. quick access to on demand options and upcoming episodes from the recorded programme, and the ability to jump x minutes into the recording should come back.
Seems like things are progressing, but yeah the focus should still return to the watched programme when exiting (after being given options for deletion etc of course). Also, the features that people miss should be reinstated, e.g. quick access to on demand options and upcoming episodes from the recorded programme, and the ability to jump x minutes into the recording should come back.
Seems like things are progressing, but yeah the focus should still return to the watched programme when exiting (after being given options for deletion of course, on to the next episode if removed). Also, the features that people miss should be reinstated, e.g. quick access to on demand options and upcoming episodes from the recorded programme, and the ability to jump x minutes into the recording should come back.
Seems like things are progressing, but yeah the focus should still return to the watched programme when exiting (after being given options for deletion of course, if removed on to the next episode). Also, the features that people miss should be reinstated, e.g. quick access to on demand options and upcoming episodes from the recorded programme, and the ability to jump x minutes into the recording should come back.
What is the point of an NDA if people are going to breach it, as if it stood for Now Describe All?
Update: I see he has now been duly hammered.
Here's the thread..
https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/T...
Have you ever signed an NDA?
If you have, did you then blithely ignore it?
You may have an opinion on what YouView should do, and many people will perhaps agree with you, but the point is that YouView have chosen to go this particular route, of making these trials confidential, and everyone taking part has signed an NDA agreeing to abide by YouView's wishes.
If they didn't want to, that is their choice, but then they can't be a triallist.
Whatever you believe, I reckon if you properly think this through you will realise you should not be supporting the breaking of NDAs, and by the same token, anyone who has Liked your posting should be having a rethink.
"Pretty sad if the person who commented is told off. Shows even more disrespect by Youview to its customers."
It shows even more disrespect by a user to YouView. And a complete disregard as well.
"Pretty sad if the person who commented is told off. Shows even more disrespect by Youview to its customers."
It shows even more disrespect by a user to YouView. And a complete disregard as well.
Though what is agreed from and by those that hate it to those that like it is one thing and one thing only -
It needs much work.
"It [YouView] needs much work" [as agreed by everyone]
As someone who has only just recently come across this unfortunate NextGen revision to YouView's system, with all it's issues and this forum full of people moaning, that "work needed" is what amazes me.
It is obvious 'it' needs much much more work and 'it' should never have been released into the wild with so many things obviously missing and faulty.
I didn't ever need to come here before - it (YV) just worked, but the missing features and what I see as limitations along with a lack of any pre-knowledge about the update had me here within a day or two of it occurring on my box.
I've read loads of things here since, the best of which is the excellent article by Keith:
https://community.youview.com/youview/topics/youview-next-gen-first-impressions
In that link Keith outlines very clearly the issues in a brilliantly unbiased way; the good, the bad and the ugly. With all that known many months ago, things should have been halted for updates to the general public until it at least functioned in a way that existing ordinary users could take on board the new methodology. With a change to HTML5 it should have been entirely possible to provide a way for the system to run in the way we already knew as well as provide the NextGen way with a simple configuration interface for us to adopt and adjust to our needs and tastes.
However, as things stand, with so many things missing or faulty, without any regard for people that might like list-views (let alone the fact that we're used to them), it can only serve to put us off YouView as a usable and reliable platform.
I'm encouraged to read the leaked developments mentioned at the top of this post (at least we public now know something is vaguely being done), but really it should never have got to this stage in the first place. I shouldn't have needed to come to these forums and spend hours reading up on what's gone wrong with my box and the development process.
By day I'm a designer - in product, graphics and web design. To me, the new layout ideas are an interesting development but an abomination in the number of problems and issues regarding just trying to read and find the content we know and love - there's nowt wrong with a list.
All the additional practical functionality issues I've read here are yet more to worry about and I find I've now lost trust in the machine working in a usable and reliable way. As I say, all this was known months ago and yet it was still pushed to the public with many of the issues unresolved. A big big mistake.
I won't really be following things here anymore, I don't have the time to waste, I just want a box that works, and one like the old system would be better for my needs. The rest of my family is not too keen on the new layout either.
Or should we deduce anything from your silence?