YouView developing voice controlled TV experience with Amazon Alexa

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  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 10 June 2017, 8:01PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    Hmm, that was a particular solution to a particular problem, I don't see that as a parallel at all.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    edited 10 June 2017, 8:37PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    I don't have a problem with this, so query, if I may, why do you?

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  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,591 ✭✭✭
    edited 10 June 2017, 8:43PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    I have Hive Home, which I can control from the thermostats on the wall.

    There is an iPad or Android app that lets me control it remotely.

    Do I 'have to' buy something that will run this app?

    There is an Alexa Skill for the Hive Home, which means I can ask her to turn my heating up or down by voice, without having to go to the relevant thermostat and turn the dial, or to find, open, and type on, my iPad.

    Do I 'have to' buy an Echo Dot so I can do this?

    The YouView box remains what it always was, does what (NextGen) always did.

    Extra conveniences require extra investment; get over it.
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  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    edited 10 June 2017, 11:38PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    Yes... thats my view too. I seriously don't see what the problem is with this tie-up.
    Its actually a move forward...
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  • Ruth NicolRuth Nicol Member Posts: 4
    edited 12 June 2017, 8:08PM
    IMO it would be foolish to leave out Google Home as although it has only recently been launched it is increasing sales rapidly and will soon rival Alexa, it has better voice recognition, especially if you have any kind of accent and uses Google for searches not Bing, which I personally hate, give me Google over Bing any day.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,591 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 8:34AM

    IMO it would be foolish to leave out Google Home as although it has only recently been launched it is increasing sales rapidly and will soon rival Alexa, it has better voice recognition, especially if you have any kind of accent and uses Google for searches not Bing, which I personally hate, give me Google over Bing any day.

    There's first, and there's best.

    Google got their timing wrong in the UK, and missed Christmas, so their penetration is as yet very small.

    So even if Google Home is best (and that is yet to be proven) they have a deal of catching up to do, and a very large set of Skills to acquire.

    I am sure that if and when they reach critical mass, the Skill developed for the Echo devices could be ported over.

    Maybe Google could write a Port-a-Skill app, and climb on board that way?
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  • Michael GMichael G Member Posts: 876
    edited 11 June 2017, 10:41AM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    Chromecast is £30. All BT did was add cast support to their mobile apps, initiated via iOS or android.

    Not the same league at all.

    I've no problem with YV adding voice control via smart home. I just don't want that functionality restricted to one ecosystem. Especially when that ecosystem is operated by a company I loathe.
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 11:02AM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    What Michael said. BT did this when they removed BT Sport from BT Vision and sent all affected customers a Chromecast for free.
  • Michael GMichael G Member Posts: 876
    edited 11 June 2017, 11:04AM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    Thanks redchiz. I wasn't affected and didn't know that. Thanks for the background.

    It was more than Amazon did when they removed Prime support from our old TV. They were quite happy to sell me a Fire TV stick/box. I told em to stuff it.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 12:45PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    Aren't they all the Devil?
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  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 12:49PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    Only if you believe in superstitious claptrap.
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 12:49PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    Only if you believe in superstitious claptrap. This is far more mundane.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 1:07PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    I include my provider BT in that. Is that superstitious claptrap?
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  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 1:16PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    It is if you believe in devils.  ;)
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 1:21PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    Voice is an important development for the YouView platform.
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  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 1:26PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    I don't disagree, the main argument here is about how it is being implemented. Others might argue whether it is more or less important than other developments.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 1:30PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    I knew someone would bring that up....
    Bad.
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  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,591 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 2:24PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    You don't normally put icing on a cake before it is completely baked though, do you?
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 2:48PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    I agree that we have a half-baked cake here. ;)
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 2:56PM
    Visionman said:

    redchiz>
    "Yeah, I agree about accessibility and generally moving forwards, but tying it into a particular device/system, why? Will you have to buy an Echo Dot as a minimum in order to get this feature?"
    Moving forward, due to changes to and in BT TVs ecosystem, BT did the same tie-up with Chromecast, so their users could continue receiving BT Sport. So such tie-ups are not unusual.

    I too, agree. Replicated...
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  • DarrenDarren Member, Super User Posts: 651 ✭✭
    edited 12 June 2017, 7:41PM
    This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 9:51PM
    Darren2 said:

    This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.

    I know how nice for you. Any thoughts for those who don't have one?
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 9:55PM
    Darren2 said:

    This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.

    Can it. This is an extra feature that neither you or I can get. So what? Glass half full?
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  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 9:57PM
    Darren2 said:

    This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.

    Do one. I wasn't asking you.
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 10:01PM
    Darren2 said:

    This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.

    And there was a perfectly reasonable question there before you butted in.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 10:04PM
    Darren2 said:

    This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.

    I know.... ah well.
    Definitely glass half full. 
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 10:08PM
    Darren2 said:

    This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.

    Nah, just glasses on, a pre-requisite for those of us who have been blighted with sight issues from an early age. ;)

    Remember how you often comment about how varied opinions matter? Remember not to dismiss those which differ from your own. x
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 10:21PM
    Darren2 said:

    This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.

    OK, thats totally fine. YouView will going forward be offering Voice. And?
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  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 10:28PM
    Darren2 said:

    This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.

    "And?" Really? I have two teenage sons and their attitude to deal with, don't need no more innit.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2017, 10:39PM
    Darren2 said:

    This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.

    YouView will in the future be offering Voice. Thats..... it?
     And its a move forward.
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