This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.
Um, yes I know, it's at the top of this thread, we are discussing it here and I agree. But some of us don't like the way they are approaching it, is that OK, or have you not got that?
This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.
Yes, I totally understand. 2 years ago I suggested YouView develop a Voice remote, fully knowing the technology at the time wasn't there to support it and It was one for the future... But I was also fully aware back then that if it happened they would have to use a third party platform to do it. For now.
I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.
The Sony TVs with YouView on can be voice controlled, sort of, with very limited application to the YouView side of things.
The remote that does this costs £50.
An Echo Dot costs £50, and does unimaginably more.
You seem to want YouView to spend a lot of money and time on a closed-off solution of its own, which you fondly imagine won't involve you in any further cost, or does not involve an association with Amazon, to which, perhaps, you have some doctrinaire objection.
This is not going to happen :-)
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This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.
A closed-off solution of its own, that is precisely what this seems to be. More an open solution that works with most major app-supporting devices, is that such a controversial concept for you to grasp?
Hopefully YouView will integrate Alexa into the YouView app. There already exists a 3rd party app (Ubi) on Android with access to Alexa. I imagine Amazon will add Alexa to the Amazon Android app before too long. After all, Apple iOS users have already received an updated Amazon app with Alexa support.
This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.
How do you work that out redchiz. It's linking YV box to IoT/IFTTT. Which opens up all kind of possibilities. I already have two echo devices and they are great. What YV I'd doing here is cutting out the h/w and s/w Dev for a whole load of future stuff and getting a load of other good stuff thrown in for free.
How about fixing all that's been broken by NextGen first!
What peeps seem to forget here is that simple Alexa voice commands should reduce button presses and remove some of the 'Broken' stuff anyway. I'm all for this proposal.
This is good news as I have been using the Amazon Echo(Alexa) since 3 weeks after it first came out last November.
Most of us already have devices which can handle voice commands, why are YouView only committing to one? As an aside though it will be interesting to see how an Amazon device or anything else is going to communicate with a non-wireless box. Further upgrades all round?
Btw, Amazon currently have the Dot for sub 45quid. Fill ur boots folks.
Nope. Selfish actually Note- I am not arguing with you, I'm egging you on Come on, it's the price of an All-in-one remote and opens up a whole host of other possibilities. I understand if you have other options this'd be frustrating, but the Alexa option is not just voice command. There's all the other IFTTT stuff that comes with it. Think of it that way. YV chose Alexa, there are other IoT options but I guess at this point they can't afford to invest in them all.
Btw, Amazon currently have the Dot for sub 45quid. Fill ur boots folks.
I can't believe we are discussing this when all the missing features of oldgen are still missing from nextgen after 6 months. Is it really that hard to push a button on the remote control.
Foreseeable issues: Alexa, please: 1) List the most recent things I've recorded 2) Jump fifteen minutes forward in this programme 3) Delete the oldest episode of this series 4) Record the next episodes of 'Allo 'allo, Doctor Who and Twirlywoos
Btw, Amazon currently have the Dot for sub 45quid. Fill ur boots folks.
Were discussing this coz it's out there as a future, option. Re button pressing - when it comes to my Octogenarian in-laws, yes, absolutely. Controlling Alexa is a piece of p####, by comparison.
Btw, Amazon currently have the Dot for sub 45quid. Fill ur boots folks.
Yep, and its not just dexterity. My in-laws have a morbid fear of the remote on modern TV's and STB's I have tried to get them to use a number of boxes to view guide and record stuff. Absolutely impossible. What you and I would consider simple baffles them. Alexa - however - easy peasey. I realise so far with tem its just been dipping the toe in the water by choosing music to play, and asking random stuff of Alexa, but to them its much more intuitive. The success of this YV voice controller is going to be how well the Alexa/YV commands are integrated.
Btw, Amazon currently have the Dot for sub 45quid. Fill ur boots folks.
Please do not think my objections are to the principles of voice control as I too can see the benefits. It is just the approach which I find strange. Although a fly on the wall at the corporate jollies which led to this tie-up might be able to tell some interesting tales.
Foreseeable issues: Alexa, please: 1) List the most recent things I've recorded 2) Jump fifteen minutes forward in this programme 3) Delete the oldest episode of this series 4) Record the next episodes of 'Allo 'allo, Doctor Who and Twirlywoos
Yeah, I know - and you can say that about pretty much every voice control unit. That doesn't mean they are not useful - especially to the elderly or disabled.
Until we get our own HAL 9000 units, commands are going to have to be simple for units like the Echo/Alexa to interpret. I think until you actually have one to use, and get used to the level that you need to interact, then you are always going to foresee issues from ambivalent commands.
Btw, Amazon currently have the Dot for sub 45quid. Fill ur boots folks.
Who knows why they chose it? However, at this point the echo devices have a 70% market share vs 23% for the Google devices. I realise that will change - and no doubt the apple options will also come into the slugging match. I just think they have gone for the one with more commercial footprint. Whichever option they chose, it would be criticised, so its a no-win situation. As I said before I think they are cash restricted and had to pick one - not several.
Btw, Amazon currently have the Dot for sub 45quid. Fill ur boots folks.
And again one is left wondering about the position of the minor stakeholders, notably the publicly-owned BBC and Channel 4, in allowing such a narrow development path to go ahead.
Foreseeable issues: Alexa, please: 1) List the most recent things I've recorded 2) Jump fifteen minutes forward in this programme 3) Delete the oldest episode of this series 4) Record the next episodes of 'Allo 'allo, Doctor Who and Twirlywoos
Did you know that Arthur C. Clarke disliked IBM's dominance in the 1960s & thus called his Computer HAL (IBM-1) .......
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2 years ago I suggested YouView develop a Voice remote, fully knowing the technology at the time wasn't there to support it and It was one for the future...
But I was also fully aware back then that if it happened they would have to use a third party platform to do it. For now.
The remote that does this costs £50.
An Echo Dot costs £50, and does unimaginably more.
You seem to want YouView to spend a lot of money and time on a closed-off solution of its own, which you fondly imagine won't involve you in any further cost, or does not involve an association with Amazon, to which, perhaps, you have some doctrinaire objection.
This is not going to happen :-)
I'm all for this proposal.
Note- I am not arguing with you, I'm egging you on
Come on, it's the price of an All-in-one remote and opens up a whole host of other possibilities.
I understand if you have other options this'd be frustrating, but the Alexa option is not just voice command. There's all the other IFTTT stuff that comes with it. Think of it that way.
YV chose Alexa, there are other IoT options but I guess at this point they can't afford to invest in them all.
Is it really that hard to push a button on the remote control.
Alexa, please:
1) List the most recent things I've recorded
2) Jump fifteen minutes forward in this programme
3) Delete the oldest episode of this series
4) Record the next episodes of 'Allo 'allo, Doctor Who and Twirlywoos
Re button pressing - when it comes to my Octogenarian in-laws, yes, absolutely. Controlling Alexa is a piece of p####, by comparison.
Alexa - however - easy peasey. I realise so far with tem its just been dipping the toe in the water by choosing music to play, and asking random stuff of Alexa, but to them its much more intuitive.
The success of this YV voice controller is going to be how well the Alexa/YV commands are integrated.
Until we get our own HAL 9000 units, commands are going to have to be simple for units like the Echo/Alexa to interpret.
I think until you actually have one to use, and get used to the level that you need to interact, then you are always going to foresee issues from ambivalent commands.
However, at this point the echo devices have a 70% market share vs 23% for the Google devices. I realise that will change - and no doubt the apple options will also come into the slugging match. I just think they have gone for the one with more commercial footprint.
Whichever option they chose, it would be criticised, so its a no-win situation.
As I said before I think they are cash restricted and had to pick one - not several.
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Though I acknowledge your right to state that. Though I don't understand what you mean by 'narrow'.