How to use the new YouView Community Forum

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  • RoyRoy Posts: 13,342Member ✭✭✭
    edited 5 October 2017, 10:05AM

    I've seen bugs you people wouldn't believe.

    Attack trolls spitting flames off-topic just for a badge.

    I’ve watched YouView glitter in the dark near the NextGen launch.

    All those GetSat points will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

    Time to change.

    ‘Does television exist for us to watch, or do we exist to watch television?’ - Noah Hawley
  • jimbjimb Posts: 867Member ✭✭
    Roy said:

    I've seen bugs you people wouldn't believe.

    Attack trolls spitting flames off-topic just for a badge.

    I’ve watched YouView glitter in the dark near the NextGen launch.

    All those GetSat points will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

    Time to change.

    In case you've missed it Roy, currently two people think that this post is "awesome" and you deserve "a bit of love".
     B) 

    @Roy @Stephen
  • jimbjimb Posts: 867Member ✭✭
    @Sarah are there any community guidelines?
    All the "Respect" stuff.  ;)
  • SarahSarah Posts: 504Administrator admin
    jimb said:
    @Sarah are there any community guidelines?
    All the "Respect" stuff.  ;)
    Yes there are, they can be found here: https://www.youview.com/community-guidelines 
  • KeithKeith Posts: 2,350Member, Champion mod
    jimb said:
    @Sarah are there any community guidelines?
    All the "Respect" stuff.  ;)
    Those topics do appear to have be imported fine and are at:
    What seems to be missing is a suitable welcome message block with these permanently listed there.
  • DanielDaniel Posts: 1,757Member ✭✭
    @Sarah I have sent another email.
  • jimbjimb Posts: 867Member ✭✭
    Keith said:

    What seems to be missing is a suitable welcome message block with these permanently listed there.

    Thanks Keith - that's what I was getting at. 
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,509Member ✭✭✭
    Robert said:
    I see some of the points presented and I can see why it's important to some of you. There seems to be an argument for points gained pointing to the trustworthiness and knowledge of certain individuals. That could work in an ideal world but on the other forum I saw people racking up loads of points simply by being argumentative and disruptive. Of course the points will stay and that's perfectly fine but I still think, from many posts on the other forum, that whether they realise it or not, some people seemed overly concerned about their posts/ranking etc which I found quite amusing.
    Heey.... Aren't you Mr 'Aspiring Expert' on another forum? :)
    @Roy - you've played a blinder there!
  • RobertRobert Posts: 304Member ✭✭
    edited 6 October 2017, 10:55PM
    @Visionman You are correct in that although in reality I'm neither 'aspiring' or an 'expert'. It's something I'm afraid you can't opt out of there either. I just find all these 'badges' or 'titles' sadly pointless and silly. I'd forgotten about those silly titles on the forum in question as I'm fairly sure they don't send out updates on your 'title level' or whatever you'd want to call it.

    Good spot on the 'Home' button. I was doing the same as Roy to get 'home'.
    Frequent browser....Infrequent poster!
  • AnaglyptaAnaglypta Posts: 634Member ✭✭✭
    edited 7 October 2017, 1:08AM
    Roy said:

    I've seen bugs you people wouldn't believe.

    Attack trolls spitting flames off-topic just for a badge.

    I’ve watched YouView glitter in the dark near the NextGen launch.

    All those GetSat points will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

    Time to change.

    Pure genius @Roy - not easy being a dolphin.

    John

    Quite a "stout" statement.  :)
    "Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - George S. Patton
  • RoyRoy Posts: 13,342Member ✭✭✭
    Keith said:

    A standard feature of a Vanilla forum is a list of all the available badges, see

    https://community.youview.com/youview/badges

    A standard feature, and yet the only way to get to it is to happen to know the URL?

    Or have I missed something?
    ‘Does television exist for us to watch, or do we exist to watch television?’ - Noah Hawley
  • KeithKeith Posts: 2,350Member, Champion mod
    Roy said:
    Keith said:

    A standard feature of a Vanilla forum is a list of all the available badges, see

    https://community.youview.com/youview/badges

    A standard feature, and yet the only way to get to it is to happen to know the URL?

    Or have I missed something?
    No, I don't think you are missing anything. Why what appears to be a standard public feature/page on Vanilla forums is not then linked in somewhere so ordinary people can easily find it if they wish is unclear.

    As others have mentioned, badges, points and leaderboards can be informative but can also be gamed/misunderstood/misrepresentative, as well as badges perhaps feeling like something one hands out in school (more so now than in the last century though) rather than such a community/forum.

    If we had a block on the main page with some key links (as I have previously mentioned) it could contain the link to the community guidelines, terms of use, and also now a link to this badges/leaderboard info for completeness :smile:
  • RoyRoy Posts: 13,342Member ✭✭✭
    edited 20 October 2017, 9:59AM
    Tip

    If you have made a lot of postings (as I have) and you want to go back (Profile, Comments) to one made a long time ago, you are going to be pressing that 'More' button a very large number of times, as the standard feature only lets you page back one page at a time.

    However, if you look at the URL that appears, you can see it ends with page=nnn, and you can change that nnn to make big jumps.

    If you go back further than the page with your very first posting on, it will erroneously say you haven't made any comments yet, which is at least better than a 404.

    Exploiting this, I homed in on my very first comment quite quickly with a binary chop B)
    ‘Does television exist for us to watch, or do we exist to watch television?’ - Noah Hawley
  • alal Posts: 1,257Member ✭✭
    Thanks Roy,
    Not exploiting this, I had previously homed in on my very first comment quite slowly
  • jimbjimb Posts: 867Member ✭✭
    Roy said:
    ...Exploiting this, I homed in on my very first comment quite quickly with a binary chop B)
    al said:
    Thanks Roy,
    Not exploiting this, I had previously homed in on my very first comment quite slowly

    So go on then - what were your first comments?
  • RoyRoy Posts: 13,342Member ✭✭✭
    jimb said:

    So go on then - what were your first comments?
    Quite quotidian really - just an ordinary punter looking for an answer, and finding it readily provided, deciding to give something back in return if I could - and here I still am  :)

    https://community.youview.com/youview/discussion/comment/10428063#Comment_10428063
    ‘Does television exist for us to watch, or do we exist to watch television?’ - Noah Hawley
  • zulu17zulu17 Posts: 815Member ✭✭
    But who was the  mysterious Unknown poster who answered your post @Roy ?
  • redchizredchiz Posts: 4,393Member ✭✭✭
    Martin.
  • jimbjimb Posts: 867Member ✭✭
    @Sarah how private are private messages?
    Can you see their contents?
    Can you see who's sending them and to whom?
    Thanks  :)
  • SarahSarah Posts: 504Administrator admin
    @jimb
    As myself and Phil are admins, we do have access to users private messages however we are not monitoring these actively unless it's reported. We are the only 2 users on the site who have access to this. 

    The only time we'll check someone's messages is if we have reports of anything which breaches our Community Guidelines/T&C and need to investigate.

    This is largely in place to ensure that users can report inappropriate behaviour or anything they're not sure about to us and we can then look into it ourselves without needing to rely on screenshots which could have been edited. We are able to view who you are sending a message to along with the contents if we need to check them. 

    I hope that answers your question :) 

    Sarah
  • RobertRobert Posts: 304Member ✭✭
    That's reassuring @Sarah
    Frequent browser....Infrequent poster!
  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 295Member
    Interesting as most forums default to moderators not seeing PMs unless they are flagged by recipients as abuse of rules

    I've no real issue with it being as it is here as long as it is clear that that is the case so THANKS Sarah for the clarification.

  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,509Member ✭✭✭
    Steve K said:
    Interesting as most forums default to moderators not seeing PMs unless they are flagged by recipients as abuse of rules.
    There are reports on multiple fora of a certain user who, in receipt of confidential YouView information that has been given to him, has been peddling it via PM. Which isn't allowed.
    The BT Community Manager has also been informed. And shes picked up on it.
    None of these reports have been by me.
  • AnaglyptaAnaglypta Posts: 634Member ✭✭✭
    Steve K said:
    Interesting as most forums default to moderators not seeing PMs unless they are flagged by recipients as abuse of rules

    I've no real issue with it being as it is here as long as it is clear that that is the case so THANKS Sarah for the clarification.

    @Steve K

    I think Sarah said that she and Phil were Admins - that's a bit different from a moderator.

    John.
    "Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - George S. Patton
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 8,509Member ✭✭✭
    Anaglypta said:
    Steve K said:
    Interesting as most forums default to moderators not seeing PMs unless they are flagged by recipients as abuse of rules

    I've no real issue with it being as it is here as long as it is clear that that is the case so THANKS Sarah for the clarification.

    @Steve K

    I think Sarah said that she and Phil were Admins - that's a bit different from a moderator.
    John.
    I agree.
  • RoyRoy Posts: 13,342Member ✭✭✭
    edited 26 October 2017, 8:38AM
    Visionman said:
    There are reports on multiple fora of a certain user who, in receipt of confidential YouView information that has been given to him, has been peddling it via PM. Which isn't allowed.
    The BT Community Manager has also been informed. And she’s picked up on it.
    None of these reports have been by me.
    Citation(s)?

    Oh, and....  >:)
    ‘Does television exist for us to watch, or do we exist to watch television?’ - Noah Hawley
  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 295Member
    Just about every time I try to post a reply quoting a post, I find the PC sees a surge in processing demands, spends a lot of time frozen and seems to be saving drafts continuously.  Sometimes it seems to be obsessed looking up posters whose names might be close to words used in the post.  The issue seems to be getting worse

    Happens to an extent on a standard (non quoting) post but not as bad

    is there a settting I need to tweak?
  • RoyRoy Posts: 13,342Member ✭✭✭
    edited 11 November 2017, 9:17PM
    Steve K said:
    Just about every time I try to post a reply quoting a post, I find the PC sees a surge in processing demands, spends a lot of time frozen and seems to be saving drafts continuously.  Sometimes it seems to be obsessed looking up posters whose names might be close to words used in the post.  The issue seems to be getting worse

    Happens to an extent on a standard (non quoting) post but not as bad

    Is there a setting I need to tweak?
    Odd - I haven’t noticed anything like that, on either iPad or laptop. But then the laptop is a Dell Studio XPS 15 with a big SSD, and it goes like stink.

    What browser are you using? What PC on what OS with what CPU, how much memory, and how much used of a hard disc of what capacity?

    I’d give it a burst with Pirifom’s free tools - CCleaner, Defraggler and Speccy - to see how much cruft you can shift, optimise the disc and answer the above, respectively.
    ‘Does television exist for us to watch, or do we exist to watch television?’ - Noah Hawley
  • RobertRobert Posts: 304Member ✭✭
    Steve K said:
    Just about every time I try to post a reply quoting a post, I find the PC sees a surge in processing demands, spends a lot of time frozen and seems to be saving drafts continuously.  Sometimes it seems to be obsessed looking up posters whose names might be close to words used in the post.  The issue seems to be getting worse

    Happens to an extent on a standard (non quoting) post but not as bad

    is there a settting I need to tweak?
    I get a slow down and that constant prompting for names when I use my Nexus 7 (2016) Android tablet under the same conditions you mention. I thought maybe it was just my tablet playing up.
    Frequent browser....Infrequent poster!
  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 295Member
    Roy said:
    Steve K said:
    Just about every time I try to post a reply quoting a post, I find the PC sees a surge in processing demands, spends a lot of time frozen and seems to be saving drafts continuously.  Sometimes it seems to be obsessed looking up posters whose names might be close to words used in the post.  The issue seems to be getting worse

    Happens to an extent on a standard (non quoting) post but not as bad

    Is there a setting I need to tweak?
    Odd - I haven’t noticed anything like that, on either iPad or laptop. But then the laptop is a Dell Studio XPS 15 with a big SSD, and it goes like stink.

    What browser are you using? What PC on what OS with what CPU, how much memory, and how much used of a hard disc of what capacity?

    I’d give it a burst with Pirifom’s free tools - CCleaner, Defraggler and Speccy - to see how much cruft you can shift, optimise the disc and answer the above, respectively.
    It's not the greatest PC in the world.  An old Asus Notebook (Atom CPU 1.67 Ghz) but it works for everything else.  Chrome, Win 10, only 2GB of RAM (83% used) and disk is 0% fragmented

    And while it's been slow it's been just about tolerable typing this even if it saved the draft 4 times
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