[Discussion] Humax software update 29.44.10

Philip TrottPhilip Trott Member Posts: 1,040 admin
edited 23 January 2018, 5:38PM in Announcements
Hi all,

Please feel free to feedback on the latest Humax software update 29.44.10 in this thread.
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  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭
    edited 23 January 2018, 5:46PM

    Can someone confirm if 'watch list' and/or Discover can include Netflix/Milkshake/UKTV programmes. I presume not and I can see how IP channels also with on demand access say via the BT Player (and hence BT software) could complicate this.

    Why do I fear a long wait (if ever) for this on BT boxes :(

  • SarahSarah Member Posts: 1,812 admin
    scott said:
    Can someone confirm if 'watch list' and/or Discover can include Netflix/Milkshake/UKTV programmes. I presume not and I can see how IP channels with on demand access say via the BT Player (and hence BT software) could complicate this.
    Hi Scott,

    You cannot add content directly from any of the Players to your Watch List (including Netflix). Attempting to do this will prompt a message "You Can't currently add On Demand programmes from withing the Players you find in Players & Apps.".

    Thanks,
    Sarah
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭
    edited 23 January 2018, 6:01PM
    Sarah said:
    scott said:
    Can someone confirm if 'watch list' and/or Discover can include Netflix/Milkshake/UKTV programmes. I presume not and I can see how IP channels with on demand access say via the BT Player (and hence BT software) could complicate this.
    Hi Scott,

    You cannot add content directly from any of the Players to your Watch List (including Netflix). Attempting to do this will prompt a message "You Can't currently add On Demand programmes from withing the Players you find in Players & Apps.".

    Thanks,
    Sarah


    Yes Sarah but it also says programmes can be added to the watch list from programme search. So if I search for a programme I know is on Netflix I wondered if that could work.

    What about the other players outside the main PSB's.

    Also do I understand that Discover will now only show catch-up content, not things coming up on normal tv like the app does. I presume the film section that is the first on the App will be sadly lacking if dependant on PSB catch-up players.

  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭
    Progress at last.
    Hooray! 
     :)  :):):):)
  • HavencroftKevHavencroftKev Member Posts: 13 ✭
    Was this update on all Humax boxes?
  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭
    I've just realised this includes initial steps towards returning the action panel.
     :) 
  • kerrykerry Member Posts: 63 ✭
    Finally!!! I'm delighted it's came back as I've been missing it since before the update...There is one thing I want to ask, im a BT broadband customer but dont have BT TV pack included. So i had to hide these BT channels off the tv guide. Its showing up on 'discover' ...how to remove them from there too? Thanks guys if you can assist me with this? 
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,699 ✭✭✭
    kerry said:
    Finally!!! I'm delighted it's came back as I've been missing it since before the update...There is one thing I want to ask, im a BT broadband customer but dont have BT TV pack included. So i had to hide these BT channels off the tv guide. Its showing up on 'discover' ...how to remove them from there too? Thanks guys if you can assist me with this? 
    You can’t alas, though they are clearly shown as ‘Subscription’ and not ‘Free’ as broadcast programmes are.

    I expect, or at least hope, that such programmes will become hidden when we get the full ‘Hide Channels’ feature at some point in the future.

    I also hope that when Retail and BT diverge, the BT channels won’t even come up on Retail boxes as they do now, just because our ISP is BT, though this may be a fonder hope.
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  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭
    Interesting to hear the subscription channels come up even though the subscription base is not allowed the update :)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11 ✭✭
    scott said:
    Interesting to hear the subscription channels come up even though the subscription base is not allowed the update :)
    Would that be deemed a bug?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11 ✭✭
    HavencroftKev said:
    Was this update on all Humax boxes?
    Humax retail T2000 boxes only.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,699 ✭✭✭
    edited 24 January 2018, 9:42AM
    HavencroftKev said:
    Was this update on all Humax boxes?
    I know @Robert has already answered this particular question, but I commend to you clicking/tapping on the link in Phil’s original posting, where you will likely find the answers to other questions you may have about the release.
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  • ukstevesuksteves Member Posts: 11 ✭
    Supposing like me, you own a BT branded YouView box, but you're not a BT customer. Since they're basically the same hardware as retail (right?), is there any way of tricking the box in to believing its a retail box? I guess not, but I thought I'd ask out of curiosity :smile:
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,699 ✭✭✭
    uksteves said:
    Supposing like me, you own a BT branded YouView box, but you're not a BT customer. Since they're basically the same hardware as retail (right?), is there any way of tricking the box in to believing its a retail box? I guess not, but I thought I'd ask out of curiosity :smile:
    Once a BT box, always a BT box, but only for the purposes of receiving updates, and it has a hardware ID that says it's a BT box, so no way of tricking it. Likewise TalkTalk boxes.

    But, at the moment at least, all boxes respond to the ISP you are using them on, interchangeably, so you can use a retail box on BT TV, and a BT box as a retail one on other ISPs.

    Except that, annoyingly, a box on BT or TalkTalk broadband will take on the persona of a BT or TalkTalk box which just happens to be unsubscribed to the ISP's TV service. No matter what the provenance of the box.

    So my retail T2000 on BT shows the BT Player, and the BT channels, in the EPG, in Discover, etc., but of course I can't access them unless I subscribe. Which I have scant intention of doing.
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  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭
    Can anyone report back on their experiences of using the new Discover facility?
    How does it compare with the old one? 
  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭
    jimb said:
    I've just realised this includes initial steps towards returning the action panel.
     :) 
    @Sarah the release notes say 
    "...you will now be able to perform a number of actions such as Watch Live in TV, Set Reminder and Add to MyTV..."

    Is that the full list of actions available?
    ("such as" implies that there are more)
  • KeithKeith Member, Super User Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭
    edited 29 January 2018, 7:52PM
    jimb said:
    jimb said:
    I've just realised this includes initial steps towards returning the action panel.
     :) 
    @Sarah the release notes say 
    "...you will now be able to perform a number of actions such as Watch Live in TV, Set Reminder and Add to MyTV..."

    Is that the full list of actions available?
    ("such as" implies that there are more)
    Giving this a try now on various programmes I have so far only been presented with 3 actions:

    • watch live
    • watch live in HD
    • set reminder

    I do not get a 'add to MyTV' action. To add items to the watchlist in MyTV I have to press record on a suitable item in the backwards epg that has the on-demand symbol.
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭
    edited 29 January 2018, 8:20PM
    @keith Isn't that the correct idea now. The watch list and discover is only relevant to catch up tv/on demand.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11 ✭✭
    edited 29 January 2018, 8:21PM
    @jimb @Keith
    Taken from here https://support.youview.com/youview-box/software-updates/humax-software-update-29-44-10 "A new Watch List area can be found in MyTV on the main menu. Create your own catch-up library with Watch List ready to access whenever you want. When you see a show you want to save for later simply press the record button to add it to your list. You can add shows from the Guide, the Miniguide, Search and even the new Discover section".

    FULL info here https://support.youview.com/youview-box/on-demand-players-apps/how-do-i-add-content-to-my-watch-list?
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭
    edited 29 January 2018, 8:33PM
    I didn't realise the watch in HD selection was back, I don't suppose the record in HD is there also.
    If you press 'i' in the mini guide for say BBC1 do you get the option to watch that programme in HD and hence take you straight to 101.
  • SarahSarah Member Posts: 1,812 admin
    jimb said:
    jimb said:
    I've just realised this includes initial steps towards returning the action panel.
     :) 
    @Sarah the release notes say 
    "...you will now be able to perform a number of actions such as Watch Live in TV, Set Reminder and Add to MyTV..."

    Is that the full list of actions available?
    ("such as" implies that there are more)

    Hi Jim,

    The following actions are currently available in the new Action Panel:
    • Watch Live
    • Watch Live in HD
    • Watch On Demand
    • Set Reminder
    • Set-Up Channel
    • More Episodes (for on-demand content)
    • Add to MyTV
    Actions will vary based on the availability of the programme. 

    Hope that helps! 
    Sarah
  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭
    Sarah said:

    Hi Jim,

    The following actions are currently available in the new Action Panel:
    • Watch Live
    • Watch Live in HD
    • Watch On Demand
    • Set Reminder
    • Set-Up Channel
    • More Episodes (for on-demand content)
    • Add to MyTV
    Actions will vary based on the availability of the programme. 

    Hope that helps! 
    Sarah

    @Sarah that's really good.
    I'm really surprised that the return of the Action Panel wasn't given the same prominence as Discover in the announcement.

    I can't remember all the actions in the old Action Panel but I'm pretty sure there was "Watch Recording" which is quite important - perhaps you could feed that back.
  • SarahSarah Member Posts: 1,812 admin
    Hi @jimb

    I'll feed this back although I think it is something they're looking at including for the Action Panel in the future :) 

    Sarah
  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭
    Hi @Sarah maybe I'm being stupid but can you please explain what this means:
    "We have reduced the time it takes for the playback bar to timeout on a programme when tuning channels so you can get back to TV viewing."
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭
    edited 31 January 2018, 11:09AM
    jimb said:
    Hi @Sarah maybe I'm being stupid but can you please explain what this means:
    "We have reduced the time it takes for the playback bar to timeout on a programme when tuning channels so you can get back to TV viewing."


    @jimb I read that as meaning

    "We have reduced the time it takes for the playback bar to timeout on a programme when tuning changing channels so you can get back to TV viewing."

    Therefore when you change to a different channel the playbar and fog goes faster (it goes even faster if you press back ;) ). Although I don't have the update so can't prove it, I am sure someone will agree/correct me :)

  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭
    29.27.0 included this:
    "When changing channels the playback bar will timeout quicker so you can carry on watching your programme."
    That was a BT release, perhaps this hadn't already been released for the T2000.
  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭
    jimb said:
    Can anyone report back on their experiences of using the new Discover facility?
    How does it compare with the old one? 

    Could someone who has this software please spare a moment to tell us what the 15 categories are? 
  • SomersetBobSomersetBob Member Posts: 213 ✭✭
    They are:
    Most Popular, Just added, Last chance, Top TV Series, Entertainment & Reality, Drama, Comedy, Films, Factual, Lifestyle, Sport, Children's, Music, TV & Films Audio Described & TV & Films Signed.
    I didn't use Discover before but I like the new one, easy to add items to watch later. 
    I can't tell if the Playback bar disappears more quickly, it still seems too long IMHO.
    Action panel is missing 'Set recording' which is a big oversight in my view, means you have to go back to the guide to set the recording yet you can set a Reminder :/

  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭
    Thanks @SomersetBob :)
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,300 ✭✭✭
    edited 31 January 2018, 11:12PM
    SomersetBob said:
    Action panel is missing 'Set recording' which is a big oversight in my view, means you have to go back to the guide to set the recording yet you can set a Reminder  
    Agree, but as Sarah has said, this is the first version of it, with further improvements to be made. :)
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
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