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Annoying new guide
This new "focus box" on the guide is ridiculous and needs a way to be turned off.
The one thing most wanted on their guide was a mini tv box and you come up with this instead??
Also still waiting for you to add back the choice of time to start playing back a recording, but its sad to see you are focusing your efforts in to things like this...
The one thing most wanted on their guide was a mini tv box and you come up with this instead??
Also still waiting for you to add back the choice of time to start playing back a recording, but its sad to see you are focusing your efforts in to things like this...
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Those who want to see whats on next and those that want it covered up by an info banner.
You can see the time the show is on from the timeline (or have a pretty good idea) so don't need to see this or to know it's ending soon etc.
The info it shows on a programme is very limited and of no use whatsoever so you still have to use the info button. I like the info button and don't find it inconvenient to use this if I want more detail.
I agree with @Davey23 that it needs to go or have user control to turn off. And also that we want old functionality restored before getting new features foisted upon us, including a true hiding of hidden channels.
One new feature I would like to see (and I've asked for before) is a select all button on the guide filter so you can hide whole categories at once. we have a deselect all so why not a select all.
Clearly their attempts to copy sky or netflix are a priority over actual daily function.
...but, I think the real issue here, and the reason why people are getting annoyed, is that we no longer know how things are going to look or work since youview seem to be designing and implementing features on the fly...
When I originally got youview I KNEW what I was getting, I could see a list of features, dozens of screen shots of the UI, and many in-depth reviews... I knew what I was getting into... now we have lost that, we simply don't know what direction youview may take a feature, and that I think is the problem... it's enforced feature modification after the point of purchase, which for me, is very annoying.
I keep saying it but, not being able to choose a start point to playback a recording from has to be the most basic simple feature possible, all other platforms have it, we used to have it, why hasn`t it come back by now?
If they just brought back the original features we lost, i would have no problem with them adding any extras they want.
I’m starting to think they no longer deserve the effort I am putting in here
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Sarah
I am new here but have read through post after post of people asking for the same things over and over for about two years, a return to the list option on recordings, the mini tv on guide, the choice of playback time on recording, all the basic options we once had returned, yet nothing.
If for some reason these things can not ever return, why are we not told that?
Why leave us in hope of these things returning if you know they never will?
What would it take for one of these guys you feedback to, to take five minutes away from designing things like this new guide and tell us if and why we won`t get these features back?
PLEASE GIVE US AN OPTION TO GET RID OF IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!
It makes me question Youview altogether.
(I'm obviously being over dramatic for effect, but I do seriously hate this awful new feature.)
And yes a few weeks on it is still extremely annoying, every time you open the guide you will find yourself pressing left and right firstly to centre the guide, as for some reason they still feel the need to start it half an hour back to see programs you have missed, then moving it again to get rid of the pop up box that appears.
I’ll reserve judgment until I’ve had a chance to use it but my initial impression is this.
1. The synopsis is not exposed in the guide. The first part of the first sentence of the synopsis is exposed. The usefulness of this I think is at best questionable.
2. The pop up obscures ajoining cells in the guide which could be very annoying indeed.
3. It would be far better, in my opinion, to make better use of the screen real estate at the top of the guide to expose the full synopsis and other programme details along with reinstating the mini picture-in-picture tv. This is how guides on some of YouView’s rival boxes are laid out and it seems to work very well.
4. As with all features like this that have the potential to elicit a marmite reaction from users it would be preferable if it were optional via the settings.
The way it is now, i am being forced to eat marmite every day and i hate marmite.
"3. It would be far better, in my opinion, to make better use of the screen real estate at the top of the guide to expose the full synopsis and other programme details along with reinstating the mini picture-in-picture tv. This is how guides on some of YouView’s rival boxes are laid out and it seems to work very well."
Honest question - What benefit does the PiP (mini picture-in-picture) give? What is the advantage in having one and why? As it appears many miss it? Why?
Second honest question - What 'real estate at the top of the guide' where the synopsis could go? As the Guide doesn't have any?
Honest answer - I would have thought that it was obvious. It allows the other person in the room to continue watching their programme while I’m viewing the guide and vice versa.
The fact that the guide only has a limited amount of space at the top is purely a result of the way it has been designed. It’s perfectly possible to fit the synopsis into the main EPG. Many other EPGs on other boxes are designed that way. Hence my ‘better use of screen real estate’ comment. Getting rid of the frankly, rather useless filter bar, would be a good start.
For some reason we can go back up to a week to see programs we have missed, why??
All this space could be redesigned to add a mini screen and synopsis, like pretty much every other platform does and like we used to have.
"The filter bar take up pointless space, why on earth do we need to go backwards in the guide?"
Why? Because its a one-stop shop to the portals YouView provide. Which are usually called 'Players'. Such a feature was revolutionary when it first launched and is still relevant today.
The filter bar is much like 'Discover' in that it will focus a search for the user on one particular theme or genre.
I know what the filter bar is, but there is no need for it to take up the amount of on screen space it takes up.
I get using that feature with upcoming programs, but going back a week?, why wouldn`t you just go to the players manually instead of wading through the guide?
Do you ever get the feeling that YouView consult usability experts, and then do the exact opposite?
But I disagree with him, of course, about YouView’s one-time USP, the backward EPG.
We must wait to see, though, if @Davey23 never realised how you work it, and will change his mind now that he knows what it can do.
I turn on my tv, put on the guide and set any programs i want to record for the day, maybe even a few days, and i may use a player once in a while if it something i want to watch before its on live tv...
What i have never done and has never even crossed my mind to do, is go back to last weekend in my guide and scroll through it to see what i missed just in case i can watch in on a player.
Seriously, people do this??
But if there is something you never thought to record, but you find there is a buzz about it, perhaps in the papers or round the water cooler at work, then you can go back to where it was shown, the day before perhaps, and just click to get it. No need to choose which player, or to go searching about once you are in there.
We did just that, this week, for ‘They shall not grow old’.
The feature was a lot more valuable at first, when the Players only kept programmes for the one week anyway, they weren’t as navigable as they are now, and we were still watching individual programmes instead of binge-watching box sets.
But your basic point falls down anyway. The backwards EPG is one week of three that you can page through, so there is no space lost to it, and if YouView wanted to overload the EPG with extra pages of this and that, they could perfectly well just add a fourth, or even a fifth, if they chose.
To be honest I’ve almost given up on YouView in any case, and more generally broadcast TV is becoming less and less relevant to me with each passing year. YouView is a half decent PVR and that’s about all I use it for these days. But even that functionality is compromised by the reliance on (not) accurate recording which results in truncated recordings. The only thing I watch live on TV these days is football and the number of programmes I record has reduced quite considerably in the last couple of years. I just don’t have as much time for TV as I used to, and when I do have time Netflix, Prime and YouTube (all of which I can access on my iPad or in 4K via my TV’s built in apps) offer so much choice that broadcast TV has become much less important. Even the TV series that I have enjoyed recently e.g., Snowfall, and Trust, have been released all in one go, Netflix style as box sets on iPlayer, before the series has been broadcast on TV.
The one feature that might draw me back to broadcast TV is Amazon style recommendations i.e., you watched that, or you recorded this, so we think you might like this. Given the glacial pace of development at YouView, however, I’m not holding my breath.