Important Information Regarding the Mobile App

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  • redchizredchiz Posts: 5,016Member ✭✭✭
    Available on Amazon now.
  • scottscott Posts: 2,050Member ✭✭✭
    edited 13 February 2020, 1:39PM
    redchiz said:
    Available on Amazon now.


    Only re-con from third party sellers

    Product works and looks like new. Backed by the 1-year Amazon Renewed Guarantee.

    Used: Like New

    They were never sold brand new retail officially as far as I am aware, which is one of the reasons BT have gone for the return after stopping method (and because they are tight lol).

  • redchizredchiz Posts: 5,016Member ✭✭✭
    Anyway, a digression really!

  • scottscott Posts: 2,050Member ✭✭✭
    edited 13 February 2020, 1:45PM
    redchiz said:

    Only new because they were got from BT through a subscription but never used. Like I said they were never sold retail 'officially'. Show me a Currys/John Lewis/BT Shop/Sold by Amazon listing and I will accept I am wrong.
  • scottscott Posts: 2,050Member ✭✭✭
    edited 13 February 2020, 4:37PM
    chris250 said:
    That isn’t the T4000 it is the T2110 which is retail.
  • @scott This link is for a new, BT-branded T4000 https://smile.amazon.co.uk/BT-YouView-DTR-T4000-1TB-Freeview-Black/dp/B01B5XN9GM. Proving that the T4000 is available retail, albeit BT branded.
  • scottscott Posts: 2,050Member ✭✭✭
    edited 13 February 2020, 5:15PM
    @scott This link is for a new, BT-branded T4000 https://smile.amazon.co.uk/BT-YouView-DTR-T4000-1TB-Freeview-Black/dp/B01B5XN9GM. Proving that the T4000 is available retail, albeit BT branded.
    Again that is a 3rd party seller (sold by topgeezer). Those are unused subscription boxes that people have sold on NOT official retail.
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 9,606Member ✭✭✭
    edited 13 February 2020, 6:29PM
    Heres a list of box models, both ISP and retail. The T2110 is labelled as 'BT, Retail'.

    https://support.youview.com/youview-box/software-updates/latest-software-versions/
  • KeithKeith Posts: 2,434Member, Champion mod
    edited 14 February 2020, 2:28PM
    Thanks @AndyBarratt - that seems to confirm the various reviews I've read :)
    If Manhattan can deliver the EPG search (a feature that was inexplicably missing from YouView when it originally launched too) and a suitable mobile app, then a Manhattan T3R seems a likely excellent replacement for my ageing YouView T2000 should things deteriorate further with YouView.
  • gcjohngcjohn Posts: 3Member
    I have just spent nearly on hour on the phone to talktalk protesting about the mobile app being withdrawn. Didn't get anywhere, obviously, but the reason I was given that support for the app was being withdrawn was that it was not used by many people. From reading the comments so far on this platform this is quite obviously not correct. This is a huge backward step in the current remote access world and YouView should be ashamed of themselves. As soon as a no subscription free view box becomes available with remote access I'll be all over it.
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 9,606Member ✭✭✭
    edited 14 February 2020, 7:56PM
    gcjohn said:
    This is a huge backward step in the current remote access world and YouView should be ashamed of themselves. As soon as a no subscription free view box becomes available with remote access I'll be all over it.

    On one hand you say its a huge backward step but than say you'll get a Freeview box with remote access as soon as one becomes available? 
  • Steve OliverSteve Oliver Posts: 71Member ✭✭
    Visionman said:
    gcjohn said:
    This is a huge backward step in the current remote access world and YouView should be ashamed of themselves. As soon as a no subscription free view box becomes available with remote access I'll be all over it.

    On one hand you say its a huge backward step but than say you'll get a Freeview box with remote access as soon as one becomes available? 
    Seems a logical thing to say to me. What are you getting at?!
  • gcjohngcjohn Posts: 3Member
    Visionman.

    I am of an age where technology I have managed to get to work for me, and then ripped out of my grasp, is a backward step to me. If equivalent providers were to become available then yes I would welcome it. I'm not interested in 'Smart' TVs and and pay to view packages, but will encompass what works for me using my limited technological ability.
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 9,606Member ✭✭✭
    gcjohn said:
    Visionman.

    I am of an age where technology I have managed to get to work for me, and then ripped out of my grasp, is a backward step to me. If equivalent providers were to become available then yes I would welcome it. I'm not interested in 'Smart' TVs and and pay to view packages, but will encompass what works for me using my limited technological ability.

    Sorry @gcjohn, you didn't answer my question?
  • gcjohngcjohn Posts: 3Member
    Visionman.

    Didn't realise you had asked one. As you seem to be up to speed on all of these gizmos, what would you suggest is my best option to give me remote access to a tv box thingy that allows me to remotely set recordings etc. without paying a subscription, is reasonably simple to understand/use and doesn't cost the earth? Your recommendations would be most welcome.
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 9,606Member ✭✭✭
    Me? Not got a clue my friend. I'm YouView all the way. with 3 different models.  :)
  • AnaglyptaAnaglypta Posts: 810Member ✭✭✭
    edited 16 February 2020, 10:08AM
    Hello @gcjohn ,
    There's some good unbiased advice from @Tim C in this thread that you may like to look at. If it's a bit techie for you I'm sure Tim C will answer your questions.

    John.
    "Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - George S. Patton
  • John LJohn L Posts: 426Member
    gcjohn said:
    Visionman.

    Didn't realise you had asked one. As you seem to be up to speed on all of these gizmos, what would you suggest is my best option to give me remote access to a tv box thingy that allows me to remotely set recordings etc. without paying a subscription, is reasonably simple to understand/use and doesn't cost the earth? Your recommendations would be most welcome.

    Good morning gcjohn,
    Welcome. Very simple answer:  Humax 4000/5000 Freeview Play, Panasonic Freeview Play the 150 model. I don't have the full model numbers to hand, but I'm sure you can do a search online. Also I use a Humax Freesat 1100S pvr that has an excellent remote app, more developed than the Youview app. Hope this helps you? Good luck. John L

  • redchizredchiz Posts: 5,016Member ✭✭✭
    Freeview Play doesn't have a remote record app. 
  • AnaglyptaAnaglypta Posts: 810Member ✭✭✭
    redchiz said:
    Freeview Play doesn't have a remote record app. 


    While the Freeview play app doesn't have remote record functionality, two of the three set top boxes featured on the freeview website do have apps that allow you to set recordings remotely, and the third box manufacturer has promised to add this later this year!
    John



    "Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - George S. Patton
  • John LJohn L Posts: 426Member
    redchiz said:
    Freeview Play doesn't have a remote record app. 
    Hi Redchiz, I thought the Humax Freeview play had remote apps? Maybe it's only for streaming recordings. 
    The Panasonic dmr-hwt150eb has a remote app if I am correct? I think the 130 model (non Freeview Play) also has similar app? 
    The Freesat remote app I use every day & this is excellent/more advanced than Youview. You can actually delete recordings/cancel schedules from your smartphone/tablet while on the move.  I was also using the Youview version from time to time until recently. John L
  • John C1John C1 Posts: 30Member
    Realise it's through a dish and not an aerial but the new Arris Freesat boxes have started being launched and they do have an app, only the standard box is available for now but the 500GB, 1TB and 2TB should be launching soon. With a wideband LNB it can potentially record 3 channels whilst watching a fourth.

    I'm going to keep my eye on them to see how they are received and developed, I have my trusty BT2110 in one room and Sky Q in another...
  • John LJohn L Posts: 426Member
    edited 16 February 2020, 12:17PM
    John L said:
    redchiz said:
    Freeview Play doesn't have a remote record app. 
    Hi Redchiz, I thought the Humax Freeview play had remote apps? Maybe it's only for streaming recordings. 
    The Panasonic dmr-hwt150eb has a remote app if I am correct? I think the 130 model (non Freeview Play) also has similar app? 
    The Freesat remote app I use every day & this is excellent/more advanced than Youview. You can actually delete recordings/cancel schedules from your smartphone/tablet while on the move.  I was also using the Youview version from time to time until recently. John L
    Hi redchiz, 
    I have just checked on Humax website. It appears the Remote app does schedule recordings. Unless Humax no longer support their app anymore? Hopefully Humax will continue to develop & support their version. John L
  • redchizredchiz Posts: 5,016Member ✭✭✭
    I did say Freeview Play doesn't have an app. I accept that certain box manufacturers have their own.
  • John LJohn L Posts: 426Member
    I think the confusion is with the question gcjohn was asking. Yes the manufacturers have Remote apps for their pvrs. Humax, Panasonic, Manhatten then include the remote app with their product, the pvr being a Freeview Play device. Freeview Play doesn't actually make their own, as you have pointed out. Thank you. John L
  • kodikidkodikid Posts: 89Member
    More to the point is why their is such a woeful choice in the retail PVR market.  I can only assume the dominance of Sky/Virgin etc is effecting sales. You want a TV or Sound bar then there's literally dozens to choose from, want a non sub box and theirs probably a handful to choose from.
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 9,606Member ✭✭✭
    kodikid said:
    More to the point is why their is such a woeful choice in the retail PVR market.  I can only assume the dominance of Sky/Virgin etc is effecting sales. You want a TV or Sound bar then there's literally dozens to choose from, want a non sub box and theirs probably a handful to choose from.

    Sales of Freeview and Freesat PVRs have always been traditionally low and not many are sold. Even YouView holds to this rule of thumb. The amount of YouView boxes in circulation outstrips Freeview Play boxes by a factor of over 3 to 1, which hovers around the 3m mark. Yet of those, only 300,000 are believed to be retail sourced and of that number, how many use the retail app? Not everyone or all of them to be sure.

    Plus there will be ISP users who use the retail app as well as their own because they own multiple boxes, but again, how many of those? Its also important to consider that just because a box has an app doesn't necessarily mean they are any good. It just means they have an app. The Freesat 1100S (Freesats equivalent of YouView) has always had consistently good reviews and has a malleable mobile app that comes highly recommended.

    Freeview boxes traditionally not so much and its a poor market, but the latest offering, the Manhattan TR-3 has been getting excellent reviews and have promised a mobile app will be launched later in the year. If the app turns out to be as good as the box then that would be a go-er as an alternative to YouView in my view. The rest, not so much.
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