Automatic Switching By BT Youview Box

DantodanDantodan Member Posts: 3

My BT Youview box was working fine then I upgraded my TV to a Sony Bravia Android 4K HDD set.  Now my Youview box has a problem.  It no longer switches the TV over automatically when the youview box is turned on or off.  To watch youview through the box or watch a recording I now have to select from a list of HDMI Inputs and on finishing I have to select a TV channel to get out of the HDMI Inputs screen.

What to do I do not know so I hope there is someone out there who knows what to do!






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  • Rob PRob P Member Posts: 65
    Hi Dantodan,
    I suspect the box is fine, I think possibly some TVs are better at switching than others. I have two Youview boxes (one BT, one Humax Retail) connected to two TVs (both LG). Both boxes turn on one of the TVs and select the appropriate HDMI when switched on.

    When connected to the other TV though, it's pretty random what happens, whichever box is connected to it. Sometimes the TV will come on and switch over, sometimes it'll come on but not switch, sometimes nothing at all. I changed the HDMI cable on that TV also which improved things a bit, but certainly in my case the iffy behaviour is not related to the boxes themselves.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 15,787 ✭✭✭
    @Dantodan

    Ensure that BraviaSync, Sony’s name for the CEC that controls this, is turned On on the TV.
    Three cheers for reasoned debate, whether for or against
  • WilfHWilfH Member Posts: 50
    Just to add to the above replies the behaviour depends very much on the devices connected together. As &Roy has said make sure BraviaSync is turned on. I have two Sony TVs, one Android and one much older standard Sony. Both will correctly turn the TV on and ‘pull’ to the correct input. Neither will switch the TV off. Conversely, my Panasonic Blu-ray player will turn the Android TV on and Off. It’s a bit hit and miss. 
  • DantodanDantodan Member Posts: 3
    Roy said:
    @Dantodan

    Ensure that BraviaSync, Sony’s name for the CEC that controls this, is turned On on the TV.

    Thank you Roy and others.  The BraviaSync control is on and still it won't switch over.  Don't know much about HDMI but do you think I should buy another HDMI cable to rule out any fault with the old cable?
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 15,787 ✭✭✭
    @Dantodan

    The CEC signals don’t use a separate wire in the HDMI cable, so if it handshakes OK and passes picture and sound, replacing it probably would not do much good.

    In general, our YouView boxes will take a TV out of standby if necessary, and select the correct HDMI channel for it; but will not put the TV back in standby afterwards, nor put it back to the channel or input it was on previously.

    The YouView box does not have a big CEC repertoire, and nor do the things it is supposed to do happen reliably, though this can be the fault of the receiving equipment in many cases.
    Three cheers for reasoned debate, whether for or against
  • DantodanDantodan Member Posts: 3
    I am about to buy a DVD/Blueray player so standby with advice on that!
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 278
    Thought blue ray was obsolete. 
    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • Stevef_fr8ysStevef_fr8ys Member, Super User Posts: 258 ✭✭
    kodikid said:
    Thought blue ray was obsolete. 
    Where do you get your ideas from?
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 278
    edited 2 July 2020, 3:08PM


    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • Stevef_fr8ysStevef_fr8ys Member, Super User Posts: 258 ✭✭
    Speak for yourself don't assume everyone is uninterested in physical content. Your assertion that Bluray is obsolete is, at present wrong. Who knows what the future will bring.

    I know that some during this period have actually bought more physical content because they wanted to watch something that was not available on the platforms they subscribe to and want to watch something at a time of their own choosing too.

    With online services closing, I have lost a number of digital films I have purchased (or had via the likes of Ultra Violet) over the years and to me, that's dead money.
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 278
    edited 2 July 2020, 3:09PM
    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • Stevef_fr8ysStevef_fr8ys Member, Super User Posts: 258 ✭✭
    I think you should change your name to lastwordkid. Your comments are always of the, I'm right your wrong, variety. Sure you only do it it to get a rise from people and I'm just sorry I took your bait this time.
  • AnaglyptaAnaglypta Member, Super User Posts: 835 ✭✭✭
    edited 2 July 2020, 2:40PM
    kodikid said:
    Streaming content has led to a nearly 90% decline in sales.
    Its evolution, 8 track, cassettes video and vinyl have all fell by the wayside.

    Not quite!
    John.



    "Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - George S. Patton
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 15,787 ✭✭✭
    I like minidiscs. I keep them next to my Betamax tapes.
    Three cheers for reasoned debate, whether for or against
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭
    Roy said:
    @Dantodan

    Ensure that BraviaSync, Sony’s name for the CEC that controls this, is turned On on the TV.

    Do you remember where thats found on the menu, Roy?
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 15,787 ✭✭✭
    edited 2 July 2020, 5:47PM
    Visionman said:
    Roy said:
    @Dantodan

    Ensure that BraviaSync, Sony’s name for the CEC that controls this, is turned On on the TV.

    Do you remember where thats found on the menu, Roy?
    @Visionman

    As best I can recall from memory (2015 was a while back), this may be approximately right:-

    Adjusting BRAVIA Sync settings

    1. Turn on the connected device.
    2. To enable [BRAVIA Sync control], press the HOMEbutton, then select [Settings] — [External inputs] — [BRAVIA Sync settings] — [BRAVIA Sync control].
    3. Activate BRAVIA Sync on the connected device.
      When a specific Sony BRAVIA Sync-compatible device is connected and powered on and [BRAVIA Sync control] is enabled, BRAVIA Sync is automatically activated on that device. For details, refer to the instruction manual of the connected device.

    Available options

    Available options are shown below. (Options vary depending on your model/region/country.)

    [Auto devices off]
    If disabled, the connected device does not turn off automatically when the TV is turned off.
    [Auto TV on]
    If disabled, the TV does not turn on automatically when the connected device is turned on.
    [BRAVIA Sync device list]
    Displays the BRAVIA Sync device list.
    [Device control keys]
    Allows you to set buttons to control an HDMI connected device.

    To use the Sync Menu

    1. Press the SYNC MENU button, then select the desired item in the Sync Menu.

    Hint

    • If you press the SYNC MENU button, the promotion screen is displayed in the following situations:
      • An HDMI device is not connected.
      • [BRAVIA Sync control] is disabled.
    Three cheers for reasoned debate, whether for or against
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭
    edited 2 July 2020, 5:51PM

    Speak for yourself don't assume everyone is uninterested in physical content. Your assertion that Bluray is obsolete is, at present wrong. Who knows what the future will bring.

    I know that some during this period have actually bought more physical content because they wanted to watch something that was not available on the platforms they subscribe to and want to watch something at a time of their own choosing too.

    With online services closing, I have lost a number of digital films I have purchased (or had via the likes of Ultra Violet) over the years and to me, that's dead money.
    Yeah, during lockdown I've cancelled both Netflix and Amazon and been buying blu rays for fun. They only cost about 3 or 4 quid each secondhand, with delivery either for free or £1.26 (Post Office rate).

    In regard to CEC on Sony's, I've got one and its switching can be dodgy to say the least. However, on a BT T2100/T2110 remote they have a TV AV switch input button which is handy to say the least (top row next to the power on/off button).
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 278
    Roy said:
    I like minidiscs. I keep them next to my Betamax tapes.
    Interesting analogy as both at the time were considered superior to their respective counterparts. 
    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 15,787 ✭✭✭
    kodikid said:
    Roy said:
    I like minidiscs. I keep them next to my Betamax tapes.
    Interesting analogy as both at the time were considered superior to their respective counterparts. 
    Betamax was unquestionably superior to VHS; my possibly rosy recollection is that it was almost up there with DVD. 

    I’m not sure what you are thinking of as the counterpart to Minidisc; cassette tapes, maybe? In my case, for recording band practice, it was that or a digital recorder using DAT tapes, also Sony. I’m sure DAT was better, but it was about 3 times the price. And our band was more cassette-quality anyway....

    The paradoxical thing was that what killed Minidisc was that it used lossy compression, which was compared with CD quality, to its detriment.

    And then after it was dead, everybody started listening to mp3s, at degrees of compression that Sony wouldn’t have dreamed of going anywhere near.
    Three cheers for reasoned debate, whether for or against
  • WilfHWilfH Member Posts: 50
    Roy said:
    kodikid said:
    Roy said:
    I like minidiscs. I keep them next to my Betamax tapes.
    Interesting analogy as both at the time were considered superior to their respective counterparts. 
    Betamax was unquestionably superior to VHS; my possibly rosy recollection is that it was almost up there with DVD. 

    I’m not sure what you are thinking of as the counterpart to Minidisc; cassette tapes, maybe? In my case, for recording band practice, it was that or a digital recorder using DAT tapes, also Sony. I’m sure DAT was better, but it was about 3 times the price. And our band was more cassette-quality anyway....

    The paradoxical thing was that what killed Minidisc was that it used lossy compression, which was compared with CD quality, to its detriment.

    And then after it was dead, everybody started listening to mp3s, at degrees of compression that Sony wouldn’t have dreamed of going anywhere near.
    @Roy is quite right Betamax was superior to VHS in many ways but was killed off because it’s market penetration was just not as good. Betamax has much better colour noise performance and had a vastly superior C-wrap transport which was more reliable than the M-wrap system used by VHS. Betamax evolved into Betacam and later DigiBeta which were mainstays Of the broadcast industry until the advent of hard disc recording. Whilst Betamax picture quality was indeed demonstrably better than VHS it still recorded composite video using ‘colour under’ coding whereas used (still uses) component MPEG two which is significantly superior and does not have the issues associated with drop-outs on magnetic tape. 

    Wilf
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