Well, I knew Roku Sticks got hot, but not that hot..... 😛
But Computer Active shouldn’t claim ‘Every streaming service you could want and more’ while we are still waiting for Britbox to appear on the UK channels list 😢
‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
Judging by the shift in the market I'm more viewing PVR's as becoming Media streamers with a Freeview recording facility added. Sad to hear of the demise of Humax's Freetime From Freesat, as that was Freesat's YouView clone. Many manufacturers have pulled out of the Terrestrial PVR market as well, as streaming becomes more and more popular.
I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
Judging by the shift in the market I'm more viewing PVR's as becoming Media streamers with a Freeview recording facility added. Sad to hear of the demise of Humax's Freetime From Freesat, as that was Freesat's YouView clone. Many manufacturers have pulled out of the Terrestrial PVR market as well, as streaming becomes more and more popular.
Following your prediction of the possible demise of YouView, I may have to recover my DigitalStream PVR from the loft, and contemplate this PVR with no internet smarts at all, just the recording capability.
A disadvantage which would suddenly turn into a major advantage if YouView turned off the tap, as the DS is completely standalone and beholden to no remote facility.
Then I can make my choice of streaming stick, few of which cost more than 30% of the price of a PVR, thus indicating what the cost of the ‘add-on’ recording capability is.
But do you not think that most manufacturers who have pulled out of the PVR market have done so not because of streaming, but because of the glut of BT YouView boxes out there on eBay and Amazon, at prices they can’t match?
‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
So you DO know that the vast majority of PVR manufacturers have pulled out of the market?
Yet you want to point the finger at BT for this? When Ofcom constantly states in its bi-annual reports its down to the trend to/of streaming? Oh? Nah. I think I'll just listen to Ofcom.
I love a good conspiracy theory me, but that one just doesn't wash....
I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
So you DO know that the vast majority of PVR manufacturers have pulled out of the market?
Not necessarily. I was just humouring you. Are you disagreeing with me for not challenging you here? But since you ask, can you give me examples of who has left this marketplace, exactly?
Yet you want to point the finger at BT for this? When Ofcom constantly states in its bi-annual reports its down to the trend to/of streaming? Oh? Nah. I think I'll just listen to Ofcom.
Then you will have to listen on your own, as you provide no citations for such reports, and I decline to be mine own executioner and search for them online.
I love a good conspiracy theory me, but that one just doesn't wash....
Conspiracy theory? Do you even know what a conspiracy theory is? It takes at least two to conspire. Who do you think might be conspiring with who here, in what way, and to what end?
Oh, and play the ball and not the man this time. If you can, that is 😛
‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
Despite the fact that its stores are closed for the time being, is it significant that only four John Lewis stores in the country stock this box and none of them has stock? A good three months in and still no IOS app.
On a separate note, how do you buy a tv during a pandemic? I wouldn’t want to buy one from a web page description.
On a separate note, how do you buy a tv during a pandemic? I wouldn’t want to buy one from a web page description.
And I wouldn’t want to buy one based on looks alone in a showroom, or I would buy a Sony, and enter a world of hurt 😢
So you do need both.
Sony - best OLED picture bar none, but the underpinnings are awful LG - the sweet spot for OLEDs Samsung - QLED is just not quite as good as OLED, but I would miss not having the OneConnect box, so we are waiting to see what they come up with for 2021 Panasonic - expensive OLEDs, but the cognoscentis’ choice at the moment Philips - very well regarded OLEDs, and nobody has yet produced a satisfactory add-on Ambilight replacement, if you like that
But we were planning to going to a Loaf showroom to check out their mattresses, and this will likely be a hard decision to make without trying them; so we are just going to have to sleep on it 😛
‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
I was in John Lewis TV department a couple of years back. A young lady came up to help, took me through what I wanted from a tv and advised me to stay with what I had. I did, of course, but my next one will come from John Lewis!
Despite the fact that its stores are closed for the time being, is it significant that only four John Lewis stores in the country stock this box and none of them has stock? A good three months in and still no IOS app.
On a separate note, how do you buy a tv during a pandemic? I wouldn’t want to buy one from a web page description.
I wouldn't read too much into that, look at the televisions/ Dyson cordless vacs or in fact most stock and you'll swear the words " out of stock" are part of the description as they are mentioned religiously. Not just JL but argos as well. Just one consequence of covid.
On a separate note, how do you buy a tv during a pandemic? I wouldn’t want to buy one from a web page description.
And I wouldn’t want to buy one based on looks alone in a showroom, or I would buy a Sony, and enter a world of hurt 😢
So you do need both.
Sony - best OLED picture bar none, but the underpinnings are awful LG - the sweet spot for OLEDs Samsung - QLED is just not quite as good as OLED, but I would miss not having the OneConnect box, so we are waiting to see what they come up with for 2021 Panasonic - expensive OLEDs, but the cognoscentis’ choice at the moment Philips - very well regarded OLEDs, and nobody has yet produced a satisfactory add-on Ambilight replacement, if you like that
But we were planning to going to a Loaf showroom to check out their mattresses, and this will likely be a hard decision to make without trying them; so we are just going to have to sleep on it 😛
Despite the fact that its stores are closed for the time being, is it significant that only four John Lewis stores in the country stock this box and none of them has stock? A good three months in and still no IOS app.
On a separate note, how do you buy a tv during a pandemic? I wouldn’t want to buy one from a web page description.
I wouldn't read too much into that, look at the televisions/ Dyson cordless vacs or in fact most stock and you'll swear the words " out of stock" are part of the description as they are mentioned religiously. Not just JL but argos as well. Just one consequence of covid.
Only four John Lewis stores stock the item but they are out of stock. The item isn’t stocked ever at the other stores. According to the John Lewis app that is.
Yes indeed, LG produce all the OLED screens; but there is hardware behind them in these TVs, as well as software.
However, this does not detract from your point here, that it is a competition by these manufacturers to drive these identical screens to the best advantage, and not to produce better screens than one another.
‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
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Thought you might like to see this review from the latest ComputerActive issue.
Well, I knew Roku Sticks got hot, but not that hot..... 😛
But Computer Active shouldn’t claim ‘Every streaming service you could want and more’ while we are still waiting for Britbox to appear on the UK channels list 😢
Nowhere else. Just on the Humax website.
But the words "new" and youview are rarely seen together.
Following your prediction of the possible demise of YouView, I may have to recover my DigitalStream PVR from the loft, and contemplate this PVR with no internet smarts at all, just the recording capability.
A disadvantage which would suddenly turn into a major advantage if YouView turned off the tap, as the DS is completely standalone and beholden to no remote facility.
Then I can make my choice of streaming stick, few of which cost more than 30% of the price of a PVR, thus indicating what the cost of the ‘add-on’ recording capability is.
But do you not think that most manufacturers who have pulled out of the PVR market have done so not because of streaming, but because of the glut of BT YouView boxes out there on eBay and Amazon, at prices they can’t match?
Yet you want to point the finger at BT for this? When Ofcom constantly states in its bi-annual reports its down to the trend to/of streaming? Oh? Nah. I think I'll just listen to Ofcom.
I love a good conspiracy theory me, but that one just doesn't wash....
A good three months in and still no IOS app.
So you do need both.
Sony - best OLED picture bar none, but the underpinnings are awful
LG - the sweet spot for OLEDs
Samsung - QLED is just not quite as good as OLED, but I would miss not having the OneConnect box, so we are waiting to see what they come up with for 2021
Panasonic - expensive OLEDs, but the cognoscentis’ choice at the moment
Philips - very well regarded OLEDs, and nobody has yet produced a satisfactory add-on Ambilight replacement, if you like that
But we were planning to going to a Loaf showroom to check out their mattresses, and this will likely be a hard decision to make without trying them; so we are just going to have to sleep on it 😛
I wouldn't read too much into that, look at the televisions/ Dyson cordless vacs or in fact most stock and you'll swear the words " out of stock" are part of the description as they are mentioned religiously.
Not just JL but argos as well.
Just one consequence of covid.
Yes indeed, LG produce all the OLED screens; but there is hardware behind them in these TVs, as well as software.
However, this does not detract from your point here, that it is a competition by these manufacturers to drive these identical screens to the best advantage, and not to produce better screens than one another.