New BT YouView Box with new features and wifi onboard,to give multi room abilm capabilty a and WIFi?

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  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    I don't understand that comment.
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  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    edited 12 May 2021, 8:49PM
    kodikid said:
    That's exactly why BT want to jump ship.
    The last prem rights deal was the first ever won with a lower bid, to avoid this happening again the prem want to "roll" over the current deal.

     The roll-over of current providers contracts has been passed by Parliament. Which is Sky, BT and Amazon.
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  • westonewestone Member Posts: 37
    edited 12 May 2021, 9:51PM
    Visionman said:
    kodikid said:
    That's exactly why BT want to jump ship.
    The last prem rights deal was the first ever won with a lower bid, to avoid this happening again the prem want to "roll" over the current deal.

     The roll-over of current providers contracts has been passed by Parliament. Which is Sky, BT and Amazon.
    but BT may not want to pay it, hence looking for a financial partner or a sale of BT Sport.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    edited 12 May 2021, 10:06PM
    westone 
    The roll-over was already agreed by the current incumbents before approaching Parliament. Otherwise there would have been no point in approaching Parliament.

    In regard to a partner, up to now they haven't found one due to current uncertainties.
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  • westonewestone Member Posts: 37
    Visionman said:
    westone 
    The roll-over was already agreed by the current incumbents before approaching Parliament. Otherwise there would have been no point in approaching Parliament.

    In regard to a partner, up to now they haven't found one due to current uncertainties.
    All to help with the sale price. Dont see BT forking out for the 3 years or even 1, more profit in BB FTTP now.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    edited 13 May 2021, 3:32PM


    The current EPL deal has been renewed and will run from 2022 to 2025.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57098432
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  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    edited 13 May 2021, 7:11PM
    kodikid said:
    I personally don't believe a new box is on the horizon or in fact exists as BT are currently trying to offload its greatest asset BT sport.

    Ohh.. I'm so going to bring that comment back to you. Just like you said BT Sport was in the bin and isn't. :s
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  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 619 ✭✭
    Visionman said:
    I don't understand that comment.
    Obviously 
    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    edited 13 May 2021, 10:23PM
    kodikid said:
    "I personally don't believe a new box is on the horizon or in fact exists as BT are currently trying to offload its greatest asset BT sport."

    You are wrong, again.
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  • westonewestone Member Posts: 37
    Visionman said:
    kodikid said:
    I personally don't believe a new box is on the horizon or in fact exists as BT are currently trying to offload its greatest asset BT sport.

    Ohh.. I'm so going to bring that comment back to you. Just like you said BT Sport was in the bin and isn't. :s
    WOW what a helpful attitude in a 'help' forum.
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    edited 14 May 2021, 9:11AM
    westone said:
    Visionman said:
    kodikid said:
    I personally don't believe a new box is on the horizon or in fact exists as BT are currently trying to offload its greatest asset BT sport.

    Ohh.. I'm so going to bring that comment back to you. Just like you said BT Sport was in the bin and isn't. :s
    WOW what a helpful attitude in a 'help' forum.
    It is actually a community discussion forum and therefore people are free to put their own take on any discussion, a bit like you saying BT won’t pay and FTTP is more profitable, both incorrect statements but you are free to say it.
    FTTP takes up to ten years to recover costs hence the reason BT were reluctant to do it and wanted government assurances the prices would be allowed a bit of leaway, BT know the UK needs fibre for future and are hoping they can sell over the top products to make money but the actual fibre is expensive to put in and of course faster speeds mean they need higher capacity in thier network to cope all of which equals a lot of money to pay out without a huge premium for the fibre price over the copper.
  • westonewestone Member Posts: 37
    edited 14 May 2021, 10:34AM
    westone said:
    Visionman said:
    kodikid said:
    I personally don't believe a new box is on the horizon or in fact exists as BT are currently trying to offload its greatest asset BT sport.

    Ohh.. I'm so going to bring that comment back to you. Just like you said BT Sport was in the bin and isn't. :s
    WOW what a helpful attitude in a 'help' forum.
    So are we saying there is no help available in this forum Scott?
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    edited 14 May 2021, 1:06PM
    westone said:
    westone said:
    Visionman said:
    kodikid said:
    I personally don't believe a new box is on the horizon or in fact exists as BT are currently trying to offload its greatest asset BT sport.

    Ohh.. I'm so going to bring that comment back to you. Just like you said BT Sport was in the bin and isn't. :s
    WOW what a helpful attitude in a 'help' forum.
    So are we saying there is no help available in this forum Scott?
    Like most forums, you can find help if you ask but most of the topics are thoughts/arguments/ramblings and guesses. Even the topics that start of helpful tend to degrade and derail as they move along.
    This is standard forum fodder unless you find one heavily censored by mods :smile:
    There are a few people in the know about certain topics and so you will find quite a bit of baiting to try and get people to slip info that they shouldn’t really because of NDA’s hence the back and forth ;)

  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    edited 17 May 2021, 12:01PM
    westone said:
    So are we saying there is no help available in this forum Scott?

    Anyone who asks for help on here will get it to the best of community members abilities. But it's also a discussion forum where opinions can differ and so from time to time go head to head. Sometimes friction can occur, which is when the Mods (admin) step in. Thankfully that doesn't happen often on here. 
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  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭
    edited 3 June 2021, 8:12AM
    Can anyone update me on this, whether it’s true and when it is likely to happen?  Tks
    Sorry, I am unable to do that.
    ‘For those who like that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing they like’
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    A blank space here too...
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  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 619 ✭✭
    edited 2 June 2021, 8:55PM
    Plusnet and TalkTalk have recently abandoned offering tv packages, 
    It's no secret BT want to offload it's sport. 
    At the moment BT is just a now wholesaler and if you looked at it's web site you would be forgiven for thinking youview no longer exists. 
    The jury's out but you wouldn't bet against BT following TalkTalk's lead and focusing totally on providing broadband. 

    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    @kodikid
    It's no secret BT want to offload it's sport. 


    Is that why BT just renewed their Premier League contract for another 3 years? 

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  • DarrenDarren Member, Super User Posts: 489 ✭✭
    BT don't want to fully offload BT Sport. They are hoping someone will come along and be a partner in BT Sport. So they can share cost.
    I cancelled BT Sport just before the first lockdown in March 2020. As it was no longer part of the package. As I moved to Now Big Entertainment with HD add on.
    Glad I did as BT have since lost Scottish football and the tennis. Although I have to say I have not been watching much of the tennis this year like I used to and don't want Sky Sports as would not watch it enough o justify the monthly payments.
    At times I wonder if Youview will still be around in the next 5 or 10 years.
    As BT no longer use the Youview branding and TalkTalk and PlusNet no longer selling TV packages to new customers.
  • westonewestone Member Posts: 37
    Visionman said:
    @kodikid
    It's no secret BT want to offload it's sport. 


    Is that why BT just renewed their Premier League contract for another 3 years? 

    Yes. It's all about best price. I understand that it wasn't paid up front. The new investor will front payments. It's called business Visionman.
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 619 ✭✭
    edited 3 June 2021, 10:48AM
    Well said 

    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    edited 3 June 2021, 11:10AM
    westone said:
    Visionman said:
    @kodikid
    It's no secret BT want to offload it's sport. 


    Is that why BT just renewed their Premier League contract for another 3 years? 

    Yes. It's all about best price. I understand that it wasn't paid up front. The new investor will front payments. It's called business Visionman.
    They have no definite partner so they would not sign a contract tieing them in to a deal knowing they wanted to ‘get out’ of sports. It is business but if they wanted out they wouldn’t sign a deal at all. Like I have said they want to share the cost with a partner it is not about getting out of sports all together. They might even have got a better deal if it had gone to auction again because people are nervous and rights are going down, the business is about ensuring you keep what you have and know the price for your ‘ongoing’ business.
  • westonewestone Member Posts: 37
    scott said:
    westone said:
    Visionman said:
    @kodikid
    It's no secret BT want to offload it's sport. 


    Is that why BT just renewed their Premier League contract for another 3 years? 

    Yes. It's all about best price. I understand that it wasn't paid up front. The new investor will front payments. It's called business Visionman.
    They have no definite partner so they would not sign a contract tieing them in to a deal knowing they wanted to ‘get out’ of sports. It is business but if they wanted out they wouldn’t sign a deal at all. Like I have said they want to share the cost with a partner it is not about getting out of sports all together. They might even have got a better deal if it had gone to auction again because people are nervous and rights are going down, the business is about ensuring you keep what you have and know the price for your ‘ongoing’ business.
    Not yet Scott. Watch this space.
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 619 ✭✭
    edited 3 June 2021, 11:36AM
    The big question is do BT want a ongoing TV business?
    Last annual report it got a two line mention.
    A new CEO with differing views from his predecessor.
    There last box design was 6 years ago.
    And we won't mention what's happening with the sports. 
    With Virgin merging with 02 and Sky owned by Comcast can they afford to compete?
    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    edited 3 June 2021, 1:09PM
    kodikid said:
    The big question is do BT want a ongoing TV business?
    Last annual report it got a two line mention.
    A new CEO with differing views from his predecessor.
    There last box design was 6 years ago.
    And we won't mention what's happening with the sports. 
    With Virgin merging with 02 and Sky owned by Comcast can they afford to compete?
    They haven’t had a TV business for a long time, they are not in the same business as sky who rely on their tv business (it has always been a sideline to BT to ensure they could offer a quad play bundle to anyone that wants it all from BT). BT want to be a facilitator in the TV market (offer as many full TV services on its PVR box without paying but go back a bit and one of the main reasons they were able to do a deal with sky for its full now service is because sky wanted access to BT’s sports channels to wholesale with its own channels). As for a new box believe me BT have spent a lot of time and effort (as we know from when the announcement was made) to just abandon realising one ;)
    In fact if you google a bit you will find BT are now looking to broadcast 8k sports content this season from some specialised 8k broadcast units they have set up (from a service everyone thinks they are trying to sell).

    ‘Speaking to Express.co.uk Jamie Hindhaugh, Chief Operating Officer, BT Sport said: "The good news for those people who have invested in these sets is 8K is still on my roadmap. 8K is part of our BT Sport Ultimate proposition, which is ensuring we always capture in the best quality available to super-serve our audiences dependent on what connectivity and what device they have in their homes.

    “We have built four remote galleries and one of them at Stratford is 8K ready, so that means we're now in a wonderful position.

    “My prediction is there will be some events this season and it will be full steam ahead from the season after next."’

  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 619 ✭✭
    Hi Scott 
    You say BT have spent a lot of time and effort...surely some of that was lavished on Plusnet....the same Plusnet that has given up offering tv..

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  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    kodikid said:
    Hi Scott 
    You say BT have spent a lot of time and effort...surely some of that was lavished on Plusnet....the same Plusnet that has given up offering tv..


    Please remember we're talking about and debating BT Sport here. Nothing else.
    But whilst we're here, Plusnet, TalkTalk and YouView retail withdrew from the TV market because they weren't making a profit from it.
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  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    edited 3 June 2021, 5:51PM
    kodikid said:
    Hi Scott 
    You say BT have spent a lot of time and effort...surely some of that was lavished on Plusnet....the same Plusnet that has given up offering tv..

    I would say plusnet always has just hung on the coat tails of what BT were doing and nothing much extra was spent on them for anything. What additional would you say Plusnet offered that they developed over what BT were offering.
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 619 ✭✭
    edited 3 June 2021, 6:09PM
    Visionman said:
    kodikid said:
    Hi Scott 
    You say BT have spent a lot of time and effort...surely some of that was lavished on Plusnet....the same Plusnet that has given up offering tv..


    Please remember we're talking about and debating BT Sport here. Nothing else.
    But whilst we're here, Plusnet, TalkTalk and YouView retail withdrew from the TV market because they weren't making a profit from it.
    Can you inform the op?
    He remarkably thought the topic was about a new box not sport.

    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    edited 4 June 2021, 6:16AM
    kodikid said:
    He remarkably thought the topic was about a new box not sport.

    To which the answer has already been answered and is yes. Not that your interested.
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