New BT YouView Box with new features and wifi onboard,to give multi room abilm capabilty a and WIFi?

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  • stereohavenstereohaven Member Posts: 65
    scott said:

    I haven’t tried recently but I believe the four tuners is slightly misleading as you can still only record two IP channels (even with my 300mbps connection :(), you can record four broadcast channels or two broadcast channels and two IP channels. I can quite happily record the 4k channel, a HD ip channel, two broadcast channels and watch Netflix while the lad plays a game on the ps5 and the missus watches YouTube :)

    I do find it amusing that everyone screams for a new box and when it is released complain that there is no point in it. Can smart TVs search all the content? Catch up still leaves a lot to be desired with some still not playing in HD and still not allowing you to skip adverts. Also it is not easy to record the F1 and start watching it half an hour after it’s original start time on a smart tv ;)
    I think the best points of the new box over the standard 4k box will come later.
    You have a 300Mbps connection, great for you but most of the country doesn’t which was my point. The mix of what you can and can’t record will just confuse customers.

    Sure some people will want to record live sport and watch it later, but I reiterate BT’s own data they shared, they are in a minority.

    Some smart TVs have a global search, especially those using Android/Google TV. Personally I use the Apple TV app to track my viewing and its search covers everything (including NOW), apart from Netflix. 
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    redchiz said:
    scott said:
    Which PVR shows me BT Sports in 4k HDR Dolby Atmos that I can record to watch later please.
    You've got to admit that's a hell of a niche market [which still exists].
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • stereohavenstereohaven Member Posts: 65
    scott said:

    The VIP option isn’t actually that bad a price if you add up the three now passes (sorry membership) and boost plus the BT Sports and Eurosport’s channels in HD (you can get offers on it also) but appreciate that isn’t for everyone.
    Is it?

    I think that depends on how you negotiate. I currently get everything on SkyQ (excluding BT Sport), in up to UHD (including Eurosport) for £49.

    That price also includes Netflix and multiroom and if I really want BT Sport I can buy a monthly pass and also watch in 4K HDR with Dolby Atmos. 

    My neighbour uses NOW memberships to top up his Freeview viewing and has never paid more than £20 for sport or £10.99 for Entertainment and Cinema together. He watches sport live and everything else on demand.

    It’s all horses for courses, I get that, but the direction of travel for viewing habits (which will impact Sky as well), is non contract on demand streaming, regardless of whether people like you or me prefer a PVR.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭
    I've just cancelled all my streaming services as I didn't watch them enough.  
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    edited 7 June 2021, 6:06AM
    So you have just proved my point as you are saying with negotiation you can get it for £50 without BT Sport (£25) and your friend pays £30 without BT Sport or boost or Eurosport but you compare that to BT’s price without any discount which you can get with negotiation. Also getting sport for £20 constant and entertainment and movies for £10 a month constant is quite hard to believe (I get them prices now and again but not constant).
    Anyway like I say it is horses for courses you pay your money and take your choice. No one is forcing anyone to take any of this and you can find fault with every streamer, pvr, tv service if you want to none of them are perfect (including sky q).

    Personally I have an LG tv (with lots of apps), Chromecast, NowTV streamer and AppleTV 4K. I never use the first three and swap between this pvr and AppleTV probably 50/50, I use AppleTV to get things like Dolby Vision but also the pvr still to record to watch later without adverts (and help me remember what I want to watch) a lot also, this weekend for example I wanted to watch the WRC, MotoGP and F1 all overlapping and the pvr allowed me to do this and not miss anything. Like I said horses for courses.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭
    redchiz said:
    scott said:
    Which PVR shows me BT Sports in 4k HDR Dolby Atmos that I can record to watch later please.
    You've got to admit that's a hell of a niche market.
    You also have to admit that it’s a hell of a USP, if a USP is being sought, for a box that seems to have all the bases covered, or will do, pretty much, once it has WiFi, YouTube and Disney+

    Perhaps the question we should be asking ourselves is not ‘can we already do everything this box can do?’, but rather ‘if I got a new box, would I rather it was a T2xxx, a T4000, or one of these?
    ‘For those who like that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing they like’
  • joneshjonesh Member, Super User Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭
    Visionman said:
    I've just cancelled all my streaming services as I didn't watch them enough.  
    Yay! :p. Good to hear it @Visionman.
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 620 ✭✭
    Are you sure you can live without Nickelodeon?
    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • DJHB1980DJHB1980 Member Posts: 163
    Are there any videos of this box in action? The epg and menus etc. 
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    edited 7 June 2021, 9:39PM
    DJHB1980 said:
    Are there any videos of this box in action? The epg and menus etc. 
    They are all exactly the same as the new homescreen on every other box.

    check here 
    https://support.youview.com/homescreen/

    Here is a picture



    And the only one that might be of interest :)



  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 620 ✭✭
    Not yet. 
    Nothing on YouTube and all the reviews seem to be using the same stock images. 
    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭
    Visionman said:
    I've just cancelled all my streaming services as I didn't watch them enough.  
    I’ve just sold my vacuum cleaner on eBay. Well, it was only gathering dust…
    ‘For those who like that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing they like’
  • westonewestone Member Posts: 37
    Visionman said:
    I've just cancelled all my streaming services as I didn't watch them enough.  
    WOW
  • John LJohn L Member, Super User Posts: 798 ✭✭
    edited 8 June 2021, 8:30AM
    Gosh! Martin Lewis will be thrilled! How to save some money each month (especially if you can't afford to waste money) John L
    Can't wait for the day when Youview get rid of the dreaded darkened banner when using fast forward/rewind recordings. 
  • robotmanrobotman Member Posts: 187
    scott said:
    DJHB1980 said:
    Are there any videos of this box in action? The epg and menus etc. 
    They are all exactly the same as the new homescreen on every other box.

    check here 
    https://support.youview.com/homescreen/

    Here is a picture



    And the only one that might be of interest :)



    So Frame rate matching but no Dynamic range matching. Not good!
    "Flash, Flash, I love you, but we only have 14 hours to save the Earth"
  • JoeJoe Member, Super User Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭
    robotman said:
    scott said:
    DJHB1980 said:
    Are there any videos of this box in action? The epg and menus etc. 
    They are all exactly the same as the new homescreen on every other box.

    check here 
    https://support.youview.com/homescreen/

    Here is a picture



    And the only one that might be of interest :)



    So Frame rate matching but no Dynamic range matching. Not good!
    Frame rate matching? If that’s so that’s a really good move if all the apps can make use of it. 

    Works great on a firetv stick it, only problem is apps that aren’t updated to use the feature, as is the case with Netflix on the firetv stick. 

    Hopefully all apps with variable frame rates will be updated quickly to use the feature on Youview.

    Oh wait a minute I’m a retail* user, and this is exclusively BT. Oh well.

    *Still no Amazon prime app for retail Youview. 


  • JoeJoe Member, Super User Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭
    scott said:
    DJHB1980 said:
    Are there any videos of this box in action? The epg and menus etc. 
    They are all exactly the same as the new homescreen on every other box.

    check here 
    https://support.youview.com/homescreen/

    Here is a picture



    And the only one that might be of interest :)



    Do we know which apps work with the variable frame rate yet? 
  • DJHB1980DJHB1980 Member Posts: 163
    Is there an advert free UKTV+?
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 620 ✭✭
    Sorry you can't have ad free as well as content free.
    Ignore this if you disagree. 
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