Netflix in trouble

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  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2022, 2:28PM
    kodikid said:
    The reality is most households would never pay the full amount..password sharing appears to be the norm these days. 

    Possibly, but that applies to most subscription services does it not? 
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    And haven't Netflix made some slightly sinister noises about clamping down on that? Although how they would do this remains to be seen. 
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭
    Never going to happen...no streamer would dare break ranks and do this.

    There would be a mass exodus to Disney, Prime etc . 

    Everyone would have to enforce it or it would just increase sales to those that don't. 
    Deacon Blue hit from October 88
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭
    edited 11 June 2022, 2:56PM
    The fact remains there is too many streaming services, which is increasing all the time.

     So they need to entice subscribers not alienate them.

    Deacon Blue hit from October 88
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    I tend to agree, which suggests that Netflix were flapping around with some really desperate ideas when their bad numbers started coming in. I fail to see how buying Roku could be seen in a different light, a management that doesn't seem to know how to stem the tide. 
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,591 ✭✭✭
    redchiz said:
    Visionman said:
    redchiz said:
    @Visionman £15.99 a month? No thanks. Hard to swallow. 

    Netflix is HOW MUCH now in HD?! Wow.
    £6.99 in SD, one device; £10.99 in HD, two devices; £15.99 in 4K, four devices. 
    Hot damn, you mean we still need one more 4K TV to get our money’s worth?
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    Roy said:
    Hot damn, you mean we still need one more 4K TV to get our money’s worth?
    I thought you already had dozens spread across your palatial estate?  😁
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,591 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2022, 4:09PM
    kodikid said:
    Never going to happen...no streamer would dare break ranks and do this.

    There would be a mass exodus to Disney, Prime etc . 

    Everyone would have to enforce it or it would just increase sales to those that don't. 

    Oh, it’s happening with Netflix. 
    Just in South America at the moment, and it’s not going well, but…..
    https://restofworld.org/2022/netflix-crackdown-password-sharing-peru/
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 June 2022, 4:21PM
    Wow, that's really interesting @Roy. And no indication of any enforcement, other than breach of T&Cs. I thought this was a half-arsed idea, it doesn't even measure up to a fraction of that.
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭
    Roy said:
    redchiz said:
    Visionman said:
    redchiz said:
    @Visionman £15.99 a month? No thanks. Hard to swallow. 

    Netflix is HOW MUCH now in HD?! Wow.
    £6.99 in SD, one device; £10.99 in HD, two devices; £15.99 in 4K, four devices. 
    Hot damn, you mean we still need one more 4K TV to get our money’s worth?
    By coincidence I'm in the market to replace the spare bedroom tv.

    Because of where it's located been warned by swmbo that it cannot be bigger then it's predecessor (Sammy 32").

    Did you know it's impossible to buy a 4k set in that size.

    Gutted.

    Bizarrely Hisense and Samsung both offer Qled in a 32" but both are HD.
    Deacon Blue hit from October 88
  • DarrenDarren Member, Super User Posts: 651 ✭✭
    kodikid said:
    Roy said:
    redchiz said:
    Visionman said:
    redchiz said:
    @Visionman £15.99 a month? No thanks. Hard to swallow. 

    Netflix is HOW MUCH now in HD?! Wow.
    £6.99 in SD, one device; £10.99 in HD, two devices; £15.99 in 4K, four devices. 
    Hot damn, you mean we still need one more 4K TV to get our money’s worth?
    By coincidence I'm in the market to replace the spare bedroom tv.

    Because of where it's located been warned by swmbo that it cannot be bigger then it's predecessor (Sammy 32").

    Did you know it's impossible to buy a 4k set in that size.

    Gutted.

    Bizarrely Hisense and Samsung both offer Qled in a 32" but both are HD.
    I never new you could not get a 4k TV in a 32inch. The biggest TV I can have in my living room is a 40inch.
    The TV I have in my living room the now is a 2014 full HD Samsung smart TV and TV in my bedroom is a 2013 22inch Samsung full HD smart TV.
     My sisters TV is a 2019 4k Samsung Qled smart TV and she has it connected to a Bose soundbar that I got her well over a year ago. Do like the dialog button on her Bose soundbar when ever im at her house. As for a good while now I have sometimes been struggling to hear what some people are saying on the TV depening on the channel or show I maybe watching. Also the base button on the soundbar is also handy.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,591 ✭✭✭
    edited 12 June 2022, 12:12PM
    kodikid said:
    By coincidence I'm in the market to replace the spare bedroom tv.

    Because of where it's located been warned by swmbo that it cannot be bigger then it's predecessor (Sammy 32").

    Did you know it's impossible to buy a 4k set in that size.

    Gutted.

    Bizarrely Hisense and Samsung both offer Qled in a 32" but both are HD.
    @kodikid

    Frustratingly, Samsung offer 32” 4K sets in the US:-
    https://worstbrands.com/smallest-4k-tv/

    though I daresay SWMBO might want a tuner - would she settle for the above with one of your old YouView boxes, or something similar, to fill that role, do you think?
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭
    edited 12 June 2022, 12:26PM
    The spare bedroom is Youview free, it's the domain of the 4k roku streambar 

    Yes I looked into those monitors but at £400 it's the same price as the  Samsung 32" oled .

    At the moment I have a shortlist of two the aforementioned Samsung and a Hisense 32" oled.

    The Hisense is on offer for £299 at Argos but I only buy my tv's from JL because of the 5 year warranty and JL don't sell Hisense. .

    I saw a few OLEDs in Costco and I was impressed by the display,  nice and sharp with deep black's so seriously tempted to splash out.



    Deacon Blue hit from October 88
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,591 ✭✭✭
    edited 12 June 2022, 1:13PM
    @kodikid

    I just swapped a better deal on that monitor in, from Samsung themselves. £269.10
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  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭
    Roy said:
    @kodikid

    I just swapped a better deal on that monitor, from Samsung themselves, in. £269
    Having seen the specs it appears not to have HDMI arc.
    Obviously this is essential to connect to the Roku streambar. 
    Deacon Blue hit from October 88
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,591 ✭✭✭
    edited 12 June 2022, 3:55PM
    kodikid said:
    Roy said:
    @kodikid

    I just swapped a better deal on that monitor, from Samsung themselves, in. £269
    Having seen the specs it appears not to have HDMI arc.
    Obviously this is essential to connect to the Roku streambar. 
    Ah, true, it seems.

    If you want a Hisense with a long guarantee included, try Richer Sounds:-
    https://www.richersounds.com/catalog/category/view/id/1778
    Not sure if they carry 32” Hisense ones, though, but you could ask.
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
  • joneshjonesh Member, Super User Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭
    edited 12 June 2022, 5:05PM
    kodikid said:
    Roy said:
    redchiz said:
    Visionman said:
    redchiz said:
    @Visionman £15.99 a month? No thanks. Hard to swallow. 

    Netflix is HOW MUCH now in HD?! Wow.
    £6.99 in SD, one device; £10.99 in HD, two devices; £15.99 in 4K, four devices. 
    Hot damn, you mean we still need one more 4K TV to get our money’s worth?
    By coincidence I'm in the market to replace the spare bedroom tv.

    Because of where it's located been warned by swmbo that it cannot be bigger then it's predecessor (Sammy 32").

    Did you know it's impossible to buy a 4k set in that size.

    Gutted.

    Bizarrely Hisense and Samsung both offer Qled in a 32" but both are HD.
    It might be worth considering the overall size of the set, not just the screen size. It depends on the age of the Samsung that you are replacing, but screen bezels have got a lot narrower in recent years.
    We've got one from that range. With BBC UHD programmes on iPlayer, the picture is excellent.
    I just measured the width of the bezel and it is 5mm. The frontal area of the set isn't much bigger than that of an older Samsung HD set that we used to have in another room.
    Edited to say that the older Samsung TV was a 32 inch set.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    I'm thinking about a new 32" HD TV. Best format?
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    Visionman said:
    I'm thinking about a new 32" HD TV. Best format?
    If you're serious, then unless you watch up really close a full HD 1080p set should be a fine choice. If not, then what are you doing? 
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    What? I meant LED or QLED and that kind of thing? Sorry I wasn't clearer.
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    Ah, OK. Try Google for reviews and comparisons. Other search engines are available. 
  • DarrenDarren Member, Super User Posts: 651 ✭✭
    edited 12 June 2022, 8:37PM
    @kodikidThe Hisense 4k was on sale on QVC a good few weeks ago with 3 easy payments but they just have the full HD version on QVC now.
    If I was to buy a new TV and I not badly needing a new TV it would be a Samsung again but as I posted above I cant fit more then a 40 inch in my living room.
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭
    Thanks Darren. 
    I'm like  yourself, really only bought Sony or Samsung. 
    Deacon Blue hit from October 88
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,591 ✭✭✭
    edited 13 June 2022, 1:29PM
    Visionman said:
    I'm thinking about a new 32" HD TV. Best format?
    Well, OLED is out below 42”, HD should be a given, so you have a choice between plain old LCD, and the various formulations with fairy dust (Quantum Dots, in other words). The more dimming zones the better, full panel lit better than edge lit, and so on.

    Which? magazine rates a couple of Samsung 32” sets above anybody elses’, but complains about colour accuracy on both. Which rather surprises me; we do have one Samsung 32” markedly inferior to the other two on a direct A/B, but even this one is more than acceptable on its own. (And it was markedly cheaper, but no longer available).

    I won’t buy Sony, despite their very good pictures; they are no longer the premium product they were in the Trinitron days and even the early LCD days, and their beauty is only skin deep.

    We have lurched towards LG these days, with a 43” Nano in the bedroom, and a 24” LCD in the utility room, beside the GX in the lounge. I’m a great fan of the LG UI, which you can navigate either conventionally from the centre ring of the Magic remote, or via a little teardrop you can move round the screen and click on what you want. And you can swap from one service to another directly, without having to climb back out of any menu you are in.

    TVs though, are one thing you really have to go into a showroom and look at, even though you might compile a shortlist on spec and price beforehand.
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • DarrenDarren Member, Super User Posts: 651 ✭✭
    Roy said:
    Visionman said:
    I'm thinking about a new 32" HD TV. Best format?
    Well, OLED is out below 42”, HD should be a given, so you have a choice between plain old LCD, and the various formulations with fairy dust (Quantum Dots, in other words). The more dimming zones the better, full panel lit better than edge lit, and so on.

    Which? magazine rates a couple of Samsung 32” sets above anybody elses’, but complains about colour accuracy on both. Which rather surprises me; we do have one Samsung 32” markedly inferior to the other two on a direct A/B, but even this one is more than acceptable on its own. (And it was markedly cheaper, but no longer available).

    I won’t buy Sony, despite their very good pictures; they are no longer the premium product they were in the Trinitron days and even the early LCD days, and their beauty is only skin deep.

    We have lurched towards LG these days, with a 43” Nano in the bedroom, and a 24” LCD in the utility room, beside the GX in the lounge. I’m a great fan of the LG UI, which you can navigate either conventionally from the centre ring of the Magic remote, or via a little teardrop you can move round the screen and click on what you want. And you can swap from one service to another directly, without having to climb back out of any menu you are in.

    TVs though, are one thing you really have to go into a showroom and look at, even though you might compile a shortlist on spec and price beforehand.
    I had an LG LCD 24 inch well over 10 years ago and never really liked it.
    LG may have improved since then.
    Panasonic used to be a good make of TV. My sister used to have a Panasonic LCD 32inch HD ready  non smart TV and it has good picture for 720p but sound was not the best at times and the EPG on it was rubbish. In my option Panasonic has gone downhill a little over the years.
    Cant comment on Sony as me and my sister have never had a Sony TV.
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭
    edited 13 June 2022, 7:52PM
    As we drift ever further off topic, I hope nobody minds if I join in?  🙂

    How reputations and perceptions have changed over the years. Does anybody remember when renting a TV was the norm, to cover both their notorious unreliability and massive upfront cost, back in the day?

    Sony were undoubtedly the leaders in the later days of CRT, with premium prices accordingly.

    The flat screen breakthrough came through with plasma, I recall an early-adopter friend paying an eye-watering amount for a Toshiba set that came in two parts, panel and tuner/output box separately.

    Things moved on and prices fell, Panasonic became the daddy of the plasma era, in fact my mum still has a set that must be 15 years old now and still stands comparison in vivacity and contrast to most LCD HD sets which succeeded it.

    Power consumption and costs of production heralded the modern age, specifically the aforementioned LCD displays. Broadcasters and manufacturers worked together to increase resolution and so screens got bigger.

    I started with Toshiba, moved on to Samsung and have since stuck with LG, the finest currently available in my opinion. 

    And here we are. A 32 inch telly would have been regarded as large screen as recently as the turn of the century, and look at us now!


  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    edited 13 June 2022, 8:33PM
    redchiz said:
    How reputations and perceptions have changed over the years. Does anybody remember when renting a TV was the norm, to cover both their notorious unreliability and massive upfront cost, back in the day?
    Ah yes, Radio Rentals and Rumbelow's, as most working class people couldn't afford to buy a CRT TV back then. And 50p TV slots. 
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭
    edited 13 June 2022, 8:34PM
    I agree with most of what Red says except in one important aspect...

     TV speakers. 

    The sound on tv's has regressed massively. 

    Turn of the century the average tv set had brilliant sound, now you can spend over a grand on a tv and still need a soundbar. 

    All my tv's now have the obligatory soundbar.

    The difference between tv built-in speakers and a soundbar is night and day.

    A truly backward step.
    Deacon Blue hit from October 88
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭
    Today its best to think of flat screen TV's as having no speakers at all, as they are too thin. So when buying, always best to factor in the cost of a soundbar with it. 
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
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