Need advice about youview

Hi I am currently a SKY+HD Customer with the Entertainment Package my contract ends shortly.I am thinking of replacing my satellite box with a Used BTYouview PVR, with 1Terrabit HD but have concerns about Connectivity..ie am using an AEI digisender[sends audio and video signal to Bedroom TV]but connectivity is by SCART Cable.I would like to get the NowTV entertainment package at £9.99 ,which is much cheaper than I pay to sky at the moment.
My current ISP is PLUSNET until contract ends January 2023 When I may consider moving to BT..Can someone advise me whether its worthwile making the move away from sky now,or wait until January when my Plusnet Contract ends,and presumably I would receive a free BTHumax box?Any help advice would be appreciate as I am concerned about whether a SCART/HDMI converter would work in both instances.  Thanks for reading this  Michael

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  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭
    edited 4 November 2022, 5:15PM
    Why not just put in a roku/firestick for the bedroom?
    These devices will have all the apps your used to on your Sky box.
    Deacon Blue hit from October 88
  • John LJohn L Member, Super User Posts: 902 ✭✭
    Roll on Amazon prime day! . . . Love my Firestick. You have the option of purchasing full price or wait until Amazon have a special deal or get some used ones for £10/20+ from high street retailer CEX or online. Plenty to choose from. Job done. John L
    Can't wait for the day when Youview get rid of the dreaded darkened banner when using fast forward/rewind recordings. 
  • LukеLukе Member Posts: 78
    I may consider moving to BT..Can someone advise me whether its worthwile making the move away from sky now,or wait until January when my Plusnet Contract ends,and presumably I would receive a free BTHumax box?
    With the the current contracts, and probably any future contracts, you will not receive a free BTHumax box.

    You will only be sent a box if you also take out a subscription to BT TV as well as signing up to BT as an ISP.  If sent, the box is not yours.

    For a few years now, if you do receive a BT youview box it is only on loan.  Part of the contract is that you will pay BT if you do not return it within a few months when your contract ends.  Even if you decide to pay BT for a late return it will not become yours and BT are entitled to install updates that you may not like.    I.e. it can not be described as free

    For new sign ups of BT TV, the loaned box is the sagemcom youview box.  Unlike the Humax boxes it does not have a SCART port.

    Unfortunately a roku/firestick for the bedroom will not be able to play recordings in your bedroom from a youview box no matter which apps you install on it. 

  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭
    Lukе said:
    I may consider moving to BT..Can someone advise me whether its worthwile making the move away from sky now,or wait until January when my Plusnet Contract ends,and presumably I would receive a free BTHumax box?
    With the the current contracts, and probably any future contracts, you will not receive a free BTHumax box.

    You will only be sent a box if you also take out a subscription to BT TV as well as signing up to BT as an ISP.  If sent, the box is not yours.

    For a few years now, if you do receive a BT youview box it is only on loan.  Part of the contract is that you will pay BT if you do not return it within a few months when your contract ends.  Even if you decide to pay BT for a late return it will not become yours and BT are entitled to install updates that you may not like.    I.e. it can not be described as free

    For new sign ups of BT TV, the loaned box is the sagemcom youview box.  Unlike the Humax boxes it does not have a SCART port.

    Unfortunately a roku/firestick for the bedroom will not be able to play recordings in your bedroom from a youview box no matter which apps you install on it. 

    And Sky+ can??
    Deacon Blue hit from October 88
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,591 ✭✭✭
    edited 5 November 2022, 4:15PM
    @kodikid

    Keep up at the back there!

    The Sky box has SCART Out, and this is used by @Michael Hrons with his AEI Digisender to play media from the Sky box on his bedroom TV via the AEI  Digisender receiver (if you see what I mean) plugged into a SCART Input on that. You point the (or in our case, a) Sky remote at the remote IR detector at the bedroom end, and the devices send the signals to the Sky box end, where an IR transmitter on the Digisender is pointed at the Sky box, and relays the IR signals to the IR detector on the Sky box.

    Thus you have complete remote control of the Sky Box while watching anything you choose, which is relayed to the bedroom TV.

    We had this in Spain, worked great in both bedrooms (though only one programme at a time!)

    Will work with YouView boxes too, though only DTR-T2xxx ones, as even Humax DTR-T4000s don’t have SCART, only HDMI Out.

    Later, HDMI-only, kit puts the kybosh on the original Digisender, but AEI do now have HDMI senders. Or you can split the HDMI Out from a later YouView box, bust one side down to SCART with a £30 Chinese gizmo off Amazon, and carry on as before, at least with your existing TV.

    What you can’t do, though, is record from Now on the Now App, though mostly this doesn’t matter as you can use catchup.

    If you want to drop Sky and still keep recording it, then if you get BT broadband and subscribe to BT TV, where you can record the Now channels on the PVR that BT will loan you, you can use the ‘£30 Chinese gizmo’ approach to keep using your AEI Digisender setup. Though their HDMI one will be better, and only needs the splitter, so you can route the HDMI out from the BT YouView box to the downstairs TV and the HDMI Digisender at the same time.

    Though if anyone at your end is a bit Mutt & Jeff, note that you don’t get subtitles on the Now app on the YouView box, which would be a job stopper for us. 
    (I’m not sure if the BT-provided Now channels have them or not, though).
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭
    Roy said:
    @kodikid

    Keep up at the back there!

    The Sky box has SCART Out, and this is used by @Michael Hrons with his AEI Digisender to play media from the Sky box on his bedroom TV via the AEI  Digisender receiver (if you see what I mean) plugged into a SCART Input on that. You point the (or in our case, a) Sky remote at the remote IR detector at the bedroom end, and the devices send the signals to the Sky box end, where an IR transmitter on the Digisender is pointed at the Sky box, and relays the IR signals to the IR detector on the Sky box.

    Thus you have complete remote control of the Sky Box while watching anything you choose, which is relayed to the bedroom TV.

    We had this in Spain, worked great in both bedrooms (though only one programme at a time!)

    Will work with YouView boxes too, though only DTR-T2xxx ones, as even Humax DTR-T4000s don’t have SCART, only HDMI Out.

    Later, HDMI-only, kit puts the kybosh on the original Digisender, but AEI do now have HDMI senders. Or you can split the HDMI Out from a later YouView box, bust one side down to SCART with a £30 Chinese gizmo off Amazon, and carry on as before, at least with your existing TV.

    What you can’t do, though, is record from Now on the Now App, though mostly this doesn’t matter as you can use catchup.

    If you want to drop Sky and still keep recording it, then if you get BT broadband and subscribe to BT TV, where you can record the Now channels on the PVR that BT will loan you, you can use the ‘£30 Chinese gizmo’ approach to keep using your AEI Digisender setup. Though their HDMI one will be better, and only needs the splitter, so you can route the HDMI out from the BT YouView box to the downstairs TV and the HDMI Digisender at the same time.

    Though if anyone at your end is a bit Mutt & Jeff, note that you don’t get subtitles on the Now app on the YouView box, which would be a job stopper for us. 
    (I’m not sure if the BT-provided Now channels have them or not, though).
    Or....just buy a youview box for the bedroom. 
    But my previous misinformed advice still stands...the only way to truly replicate the app laden Sky box is a youview firestick combo. 
    Deacon Blue hit from October 88
  • DarrenDarren Member, Super User Posts: 651 ✭✭
    @kodikid Youview boxes that are on sale are slowly becoming less and less.
    Even the likes of Amazon and CEX are starting to get low in stock of the Youview boxes.
    Its been about 7 months since I cancelled BT TV and went with Now direct.
    My BT FTTC is up for renewal in the next few months. So will look at my options then. As FTTP is coming to my area in the first half of next year.
    Love the Youview box but only use it now to record and watch live TV on Freeview.
    In the last 18 months have been using the Amazon Firestick for all my apps and some streaming channels from Pluto TV and Plex.
    Love the Amazon Firestick and its the best think I ever got. I got my sister the Amazon Firestick for her Christmas last year and she uses it 90% of the time.
    @Michael Hrons You could keep your dish and use it for Freesat if you wanted and by an Amazon Firestick. 
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,591 ✭✭✭
    @kodikid

    I probably had an advantage in that I have used a Digisender in the past, so I knew where @Michael Hrons was coming from.

    The main problem with two YouView boxes is that what you have recorded, and want to watch, is likely to be on the box in the other room. The only way round this is to record everything on both; and if you want to do remote recording, you need two devices with the BT App on, one paired to each.

    Not as simple as YouView could have made it, perhaps 😢
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
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