Is Amazon About to Scuttle YouView
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edited 3 May 2017, 11:39PM in Archived Posts
If the rumours about Amazon's TV streaming box via internet are true, Could this be a big challenge to YV. Anybody got any thoughts on the subject?:
I see what you say redchiz but it could delay potential YV customers from buying a box until either the Amazon box is out or YV address the problems and lack of features that we are all waiting for.
I would question the comment about "problems and lack of features we're all waiting for." Now that the skipping issue has been sorted, I haven't got any problems with mine and it has all the features which were advertised at the time of purchase. I know that there are plenty of suggestions for extra features but most, if not all, are enhancements rather than addressing a lack, surely?
They don't all show the same content. They both have exclusive agreements with different studios to show different films and programs.
The boxes do not meet the basic YouView specification in several respects. Of the firmware issues. the most blatant is the lack of USB socket functionality which at the minimum required in the specs should enable playback from external media. While recording to external hard drives is "not required", it should be possible with the Humax boxes as they already have the Linux routines from the HDR Fox T2. In the case of the two current boxes available, neither (appear to) have wi-fi built in so the specs require USB functionality for a dongle to provide the connection.
One could add the ability to reliably record the programmes scheduled as well, which I would have thought would also be a basic requirement. The wider point is that even current YouView customers are getting a "pig in a poke" because of the very clever advertising and limited technical information that the various companies involved use.
There is a lot of speculation so it is difficult to know exactlywhat it will entail. I believe they also intend to incorporate on demand players.
The ondemand players appear to be a feature that will soon be available on all boxes and smart TV's. Once 1 TV manufacturer has led the way the rest will have to follow.
It's worth googling it as there is a lot of information on the net.
Amazon is planning to introduce a set-top box to make it easier for customers to stream video to their television, according to sources.
"The device is due to debut later this year and will offer access to Amazon's growing on-demand catalogue, which includes LoveFilm in Britain.
It will intensify the online retailer's rivalry with Apple, which already sells a set-top box called Apple TV to make it easier to stream video from iTunes, and is rumoured o be preparing to introduce a full connected television.
It will also set Amazon against Roku, which makes a device similar to the existing Apple TV, and Microsoft and Sony, which are both planning to promote their next games consoles as home entertainment hubs.
The move will also concern cable and satellite broadcasters, who increasingly offer on-demand services as part of their packages. Amazon typically aims to undercut rivals when it enters new markets: the Kindle Fire, for instance, is among the cheapest tablet computers available.
Many set-top boxes already give access to Amazon's video catalogue via apps. By building its own device, the firm will get more direct access to consumers' living rooms, while giving developers another reason to create applications for Amazon’s digital ecosystem.
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Amazon is in the midst of expanding its hardware product range. It already makes Kindle e-readers and Kindle Fire tablets, and as well as a set-top box, is expected to introduce a smartphone this year.
This strategy, combined with the firm's massive international scale and unmatched distribution network, means Amazon it is seen by industry obsevers as one of the four or five giants poised to battle it out over the full "ecosystem" of hardware, software and services in the next few years. The others are Apple, Google, Microsoft and Samsung. Facebook is also seen as a major force, but shows no interest in competing in hardware.
"It would certainly make some sense," said Jason Krikorian, a venture capitalist at DCM and internet television specialist.
"They have a ton of content, an existing billing relationship with millions of users."
Amazon's set-top box, along with its other hardware products, is being developed by Lab126, a secretive unit that the firm has rapidly expanded by poaching staff from rivals. Malachy Moynihan, a former vice president at Cisco, who worked on the networking giant's various consumer video initiatives, is in charge of the set-top box project. In the late 1980s and 1990s, Moynihan spent nine years at Apple.
Amazon has been ramping up its efforts on video content for several years, too. This week in Britain, it announced plans for a customer vote on which of 14 pilots should be turned into a full original series. The plan is LoveFilm's answer to Netflix's critically-acclaimed remake of House of Cards."
So the journalist Christopher Williams is postulating that this is a battle between Amazon and LoveFilm Vs Netflix, Apple, Google (Ha! if that ever gets off the ground) and Samsung.
And none of the above are a threat to YouView. As they are all aimed at a completely different market.
Not a happy bunny right now. If they go ahead with it that would be the end of our hopes of having LoveFilm Instant on youview
But I agree with your comment its just another Amazon vending machine. And also gomez's comment its 'just another crippled offering box' too.
But I agree with your comment its just another Amazon vending machine. And also gomez's comment its 'just another crippled offering box' too.Don't think so mate. If it was true they wouldn't have cripled the android to only work with Love Film Instant if you use their own Kindle Fire. They could have gone the route of letting everyone having access to Love Film Instant, but chose to lock it to their own platform only. Can't see them giving it away to youview. Stupid imho, as they would get the money on sub without investment in hardware, no matter how cheaply they sell their box it will still be too expensive, as the youview box you can get for free with phone line. I can understand the concept of Kindle with its library and so on.. but another streaming box? ...
And Microshaft once got done big time for they're crippling practices. Yeah, 732,000,000 times for it too -
I think the competition for YouView will be game consoles, Bluray players and smart TVs. Up until now one of YouView's unique selling points was access to all the terrestrial catch-up services. The only other device (connected to a TV) to offer that has been the Playstation. That is all about to change, however, Samsung now offer all the terrestrial catch-up players, plus Netflix and Lovefilm, on their latest Smart TVs and Blu-ray players which can be bought for as little £120. Other TV manufacturers are sure to follow suit, most of them are only missing one or two before they have the full selection. Xbox almost has the full selection too, it's only missing itv player and that is sure to come soon, and it also has Sky Go. I like some aspects of YouView and I think it's a great concept but if I were to already have access to all the catch-up and on-demand services I'm not sure I'd be willing to spend £250 just for the PVR functionality which, lets face it, isn't all that great anyway (lack of padding etc).
I wouldn't write off Apple either. It remains to be seen what a new upgraded Apple TV might look like and there are clearly issues with regard to regionalisation but they're obviously working on something in the TV space. There are rumours that Apple will launch an app store for Apple TV and given that Apple TV runs a version of iOS it should be fairly easy for the full gambit of catch-up and on-demand players - which are already available on iOS - to be made available on Apple TV. There are also rumours that they plan to have PVR functionality, iCloud integration, intuitive EPG, voice and gesture control, built in camera for FaceTime etc. If they offer even half of that stuff then YouView would really need to up their game.