Will YouView support the new Xbox ONE?
Madcotto
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First of all sorry i couldent resist, i know its early but i had ask.
for them they may not know the xbox one will feature live TV integration via a separate supported device(s)
yes its silly ask now but with youviews flexible approach do you think it will be possible to support this device in the future with just some software upgrade?
yes this more a bit of fun atm!!
for them they may not know the xbox one will feature live TV integration via a separate supported device(s)
yes its silly ask now but with youviews flexible approach do you think it will be possible to support this device in the future with just some software upgrade?
yes this more a bit of fun atm!!
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And the BBC and M$ have already previously clashed heads. Twice. So whilst your thoughts are interesting, its a no-no, sorry. On any games console.
but it be nice have features such as the voice control over the TV channels and skype video calling seemliness overlayed over the youviews already great guide.
i just get excited over new tec and its possibilities and its why i brought into youview in the first place. hopefully i wont have to move on but its still long way go on this yet.
I think this is slightly different. It's HDMI pass-through of a set top box signal which is controlled by the Xbox with various bells and whistles such as interactive searchable EPG, chanel switching using voice control and gestures etc. Details are thin on the ground but that's the gist of it. I suspect it would not require an xbox live subscription but I could be completely wrong on that. What we do know is that for the moment it's a US only service which requires compatible set top box equipment from cable companies and telcos etc. Although MS say they anticipate a global launch over time. Given that MS already have a partnership with Sky they would seem like the most likely platform for a UK version but I wouldn't rule out Virgin and Freeview boxes. As for YouView who knows but it doesn't seem like a likely partnership because all the interaction is done via the Xbox and the set-top box essentially becomes a slave device which would obliterate YouView's unique selling point.
More info here - http://www.computerandvideogames.com/...
So reading between the lines, it seems that the Xbox cannot tune in TV for itself, but needs the signal delivered already bound and gagged over HDMI.
Which the YouView box can do. The next question is how the Xbox knows what it's adding extras to, i.e. how it knows which channel you are watching. Is this info in the YouView output HDMI signal in any standards-recognised way?
And will the Xbox go crazy trying to sync what you are watching with its inbuilt current EPG when you are playing a recording from last week? :-)
I think the idea is that the Xbox overlays its shtick on the signal passing through. So using two separate HDMI inputs would be as useful as if YouView put its subtitles (say) out on a separate HDMI input ; i.e. not at all.
But it does raise the point of what if you just want to watch YouView, and it's going via the Xbox? The Xbox would need to support HDMI passthrough in standby; it could be inconvenient otherwise.
In all seriousness the fact that you don't have to switch inputs was touted as one of the key benefits. MS say that the advantage is that you can use Kinect motion and voice control to change channel, search the EPG, instantly switch from gaming to TV to films to music etc., and there many other bells and whistles. Basically the Xbox becomes the hub for all your digital entertainment.
It's an interesting concept - and actually looks very slick - but the problem I foresee is that the set top box becomes a slave device. Set top box platforms, including those provided by cable and satellite companies, are competing in this space and they too would like to be the 'hub' for our digital entertainment. Increasingly they're also a way to sell third party services such as Lovefilm, Netflix and NowTV etc. So why would any set top box platform want to support xbox when they are effectively ceading control of their entire platform to MS and their box becomes a 'dumb box' over which the user has no direct control? It doesn't make sense.
btw - I watched the full presentation on my xbox360 last night but I think it's available on the web here - http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/xboxone/mee...
As I understand it, Xbox One takes the feed from the set top box via HDMI (rather than have it go to the TV) & then builds it into the Xbox user experience ...quite how it does all this I've no idea. I can't see the likes of Sky, Virgin, or anyone really allowing a helper agent to sit on their boxes to assist the process. I can only imagine it's all done by Xbox One being clever with what's received over HDMI.
Rather more challenging to get my head around is how Kinect will take voice command commands & have Xbox One compel the set top box to do things like change channels ...'TIS WITCHCRAFT I TELL YOU!!!
A demo of TV functionality from yesterday's launch: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21...
It would make more sense to use a cheap stb for xbox and, as you suggested, put the Youview on a different HDMI input. Who cares if MS want users never to switch inputs. That's what all manufacturers want - plug in our box and use no other.
...This said, I'd been trying to post it most of the morning & getting errors back from the site
Amongst other things I was suggesting it might be some time before we see this functionality in the UK, if we ever really do. Even once Xbox One ships later this year, TV will only be available to the US.
As I understand, Xbox One takes the TV feed directly from the set top box rather than connecting the set top box to the TV.
Not sure how Xbox One does its thing but, as I can't imagine the likes of Sky / Virgin / anyone really allowing any kind of helper agent to sit on their box, I can only imagine it relies on being clever with what it's receiving via HDMI.
Equally perplexing is the prospect of quite how Kinect takes voice control commands & uses them to have Xbox One compel the set top box to change channels ...'TIS WITCHCRAFT, I TELL YOU!!!
...This said, I'd been trying to post it most of the morning & getting errors back from the site
Amongst other things I was suggesting it might be some time before we see this functionality in the UK, if we ever really do. Even once Xbox One ships later this year, TV will only be available to the US.
As I understand, Xbox One takes the TV feed directly from the set top box rather than connecting the set top box to the TV.
Not sure how Xbox One does its thing but, as I can't imagine the likes of Sky / Virgin / anyone really allowing any kind of helper agent to sit on their box, I can only imagine it relies on being clever with what it's receiving via HDMI.
Equally perplexing is the prospect of quite how Kinect takes voice control commands & uses them to have Xbox One compel the set top box to change channels ...'TIS WITCHCRAFT, I TELL YOU!!!Spooky action at a distance. :-)
The TV comes after the xbox in the HDMI chain so that would be a no go.
An alternative would be for the xbox to include it's own tuner but for whatever reason MS have chosen not to include a tuner. I suspect that is because they want to offer compatibility with all the major cable, satellite and terrestrial networks each of which would be a different platform with differing often proprietary standards.
I'm not very attracted by a box that requires a sub and wants to control all my other gear, but things may be different when/if it launches in the UK.