[Discussion] BT software update 27.44.0

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  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,788 ✭✭✭
    edited 30 March 2017, 5:33PM
    Ursa said:

    To give them more time to fix the awful Recording list .....

    You may well be right there, but your comment that I was replying to was:-

    ......why didn't they make sensible comments?

    So it seems you are assuming that they didn't; but you perhaps need to consider other scenarios.
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • Mister TMister T Member Posts: 7
    edited 6 April 2017, 7:52PM
    Ursa said:

    To give them more time to fix the awful Recording list .....

    Like many others I find the new interface, particularly the recording list really cumbersome , while the old version wasn't very glitzy it was straight forward so IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T TRY TO FIX IT and end up with something inferior.
  • paul skeetpaul skeet Member Posts: 1
    edited 19 April 2017, 11:08PM
    New UI looks pretty (doesn't bring any noticeable benefits). Recordings list is dreadful, hard to quickly find recordings or to see how many episodes recorded. Please consider adding the option to display recordings in list format. Judging by comments left by users this would appear to be the main bugbear. 
  • Tom fTom f Member Posts: 1
    edited 23 April 2017, 10:53AM
    I hate every aspect of this update
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,788 ✭✭✭
    edited 1 April 2017, 7:25AM
    Tom f said:

    I hate every aspect of this update

    It's moved on 3 since 27.44.0

    Try 27.47.0
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • MundyMundy Member Posts: 1
    edited 13 April 2017, 8:18PM

    New UI looks pretty (doesn't bring any noticeable benefits). Recordings list is dreadful, hard to quickly find recordings or to see how many episodes recorded. Please consider adding the option to display recordings in list format. Judging by comments left by users this would appear to be the main bugbear. 

    I agree it does look pretty, but I don't want pretty I want practical. I want to be able to quickly scan my recordings and pick what I want to watch. The picture layout just makes this impossible. An option to display the recordings in list format was all that was needed.
  • SsimstarSsimstar Member Posts: 6
    edited 6 April 2017, 7:52PM
    Ursa said:

    To give them more time to fix the awful Recording list .....

    Disastrous update - the recorded programmes page is almost unusable now, especially if you have more than one page of recordings. This is BT's Windows 8 moment - will BT learn from the dissatisfaction like Microsoft did, and offer a roll-back? Unlikely. Maybe a third-party solution might emerge...
  • Michal KusMichal Kus Member Posts: 2
    edited 2 April 2017, 10:27PM
    How can I stop half the screen being covered by the guide etc at startup? I can't see an option in the settings
  • KeithKeith Member, Super User Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭
    edited 2 April 2017, 10:24PM

    How can I stop half the screen being covered by the guide etc at startup? I can't see an option in the settings

    Hi Michal - you cannot find an option because there is no option :(

    At the moment this is a fixed feature which stays on the screen for 1 minute from turn on unless you explicitly exit it. Various people have already called for an option to allow the user to turn it off entirely or set a shorter time out.
  • Michal KusMichal Kus Member Posts: 2
    edited 1 April 2017, 4:27PM

    How can I stop half the screen being covered by the guide etc at startup? I can't see an option in the settings

    Okay, thanks. I'll wear the 'back' button out on my remote at this rate!
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,788 ✭✭✭
    edited 1 April 2017, 4:52PM

    How can I stop half the screen being covered by the guide etc at startup? I can't see an option in the settings

    Hi Michal

    Are you stuck on 27.44.0, which is what this thread is about?

    Have you tried a manual update to the current 27.47.0, in Settings?
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • Mister TMister T Member Posts: 7
    edited 1 April 2017, 6:03PM
    Ursa said:

    To give them more time to fix the awful Recording list .....

    When I made this comment I wasn't aware that I missed several updates, this actually applies to update 27.47.0.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,788 ✭✭✭
    edited 1 April 2017, 9:20PM
    Ursa said:

    To give them more time to fix the awful Recording list .....

    So why have you posted it in this thread about 27.44.0?

    Please help us to help you by posting in the right place.
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • Nick MillsNick Mills Member Posts: 3
    edited 13 April 2017, 8:18PM

    New UI looks pretty (doesn't bring any noticeable benefits). Recordings list is dreadful, hard to quickly find recordings or to see how many episodes recorded. Please consider adding the option to display recordings in list format. Judging by comments left by users this would appear to be the main bugbear. 

    Indeed. I have 30+ recordings of Countdown and now have to scroll back 1 program at a time. Dreadful.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,303 ✭✭✭
    edited 2 April 2017, 5:08PM

    New UI looks pretty (doesn't bring any noticeable benefits). Recordings list is dreadful, hard to quickly find recordings or to see how many episodes recorded. Please consider adding the option to display recordings in list format. Judging by comments left by users this would appear to be the main bugbear. 

    Indeed it is. This is a non-recorder box thread.
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • Nick MillsNick Mills Member Posts: 3
    edited 2 April 2017, 6:46PM

    New UI looks pretty (doesn't bring any noticeable benefits). Recordings list is dreadful, hard to quickly find recordings or to see how many episodes recorded. Please consider adding the option to display recordings in list format. Judging by comments left by users this would appear to be the main bugbear. 

    Ah, thanks Visionman for making that clear. I've found the correct thread 27.47.0 and I'll put my comment there.
  • co ekundco ekund Member Posts: 2
    edited 13 April 2017, 8:19PM

    How can I stop half the screen being covered by the guide etc at startup? I can't see an option in the settings

    I would even prefer a complete rollback to the legacy ui
  • co ekundco ekund Member Posts: 2
    edited 18 April 2017, 4:06PM
    Tom f said:

    I hate every aspect of this update

    I'm on 27.47 - identical to .44, and sadly the recording i/f is still cumbersome; I wish there is a rollback option to this 'orrible update
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,788 ✭✭✭
    edited 2 April 2017, 11:24PM
    Tom f said:

    I hate every aspect of this update

    If the releases are identical, what was the point of the later ones - as there has also been a 27.46.0?
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • Paul KimberleyPaul Kimberley Member Posts: 4
    edited 12 April 2017, 9:37AM
    Ursa said:

    To give them more time to fix the awful Recording list .....

    The new 'icon' view of scheduled or recorded programmes is terrible. Is there an option in settings to choose 'list' or 'icon' view?
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,303 ✭✭✭
    edited 10 April 2017, 10:02PM
    In the interests of viewability & trackability, could this thread now be locked as versions have moved on since?
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • DanielDaniel Member, Super User Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭
    edited 10 April 2017, 7:09PM
    Ursa said:

    To give them more time to fix the awful Recording list .....

    There is no way to revert back to the outdated software and no option to remove the new modern and fresh look from your box. People have already complained about verious aspects of the fantastic next generation software. Your only hope is that youview update and make enough changes in future updates. Youview have a feedback thread going if you wish to post your take on next generation software and my TV. It's listed at the bottom of the main forum page next to the forum rules.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,303 ✭✭✭
    edited 6 April 2017, 8:07PM
    Visionman said:

    In the interests of viewability & trackability, could this thread now be locked as versions have moved on since?

    Bump, as this thread is now out of date.
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • SsimstarSsimstar Member Posts: 6
    edited 17 April 2017, 9:24PM
    Ursa said:

    To give them more time to fix the awful Recording list .....

    It appears that those who redesigned this interface (and I think we're really just talking about the MyTV GUI) have sacrificed facility over design, firmly ditching the Bauhaus principle of "Form follows Function".  I'm wondering, how may of you when, say, preparing a shopping list, draw a pictogram depicting each item you need to buy, yet not forgetting to add the name of that item beneath your picture?  When you come to use that list, which of the two descriptors has the most utility?  Is it not part of the human condition that when making a choice from multiple options, we prefer a descending list, ordered according to our needs, with a firm delineation by line-break separating each individual choice?  Perhaps the horizontal format is more seductive and you prefer to list across the page; do you then butt up each descriptor, one to another?  Of course not, you'll draw in some lines to separate your items, somewhat like making tiles.

    So, you're in the shop, scanning your horizontal list, eyes moving left-to-right, right-to-left and back again and it's all fine apart from the fact that your eyes have to constantly move up and down as well as left-to-right in order to read it, with the awful realisation that a top-to-bottom serial list is readable almost at a glance!  Consider two lists of years, chronologically ordered; one top-to-bottom, the other left-to-right, equally separated on each line.  If asked to stab a pin into any particular year, as quickly as possible, which format do you think would be most efficient for the task?

    The Metro-style tiling of recorded programmes from left-to-right with specious, space-hogging inclusion of thumbnails completely obfuscates the chronology of recorded programmes, even though that is actually how they are ordered.  Sow's ear from silk purse, unfortunately, and worse, needlessly.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,788 ✭✭✭
    edited 7 April 2017, 10:57AM
    Ursa said:

    To give them more time to fix the awful Recording list .....

    https://community.youview.com/youview...
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 17,788 ✭✭✭
    edited 7 April 2017, 10:59AM
    Visionman said:

    In the interests of viewability & trackability, could this thread now be locked as versions have moved on since?

    Double bump, as we have a lot of people here who need some guidance on how to use forums :-(
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • Lee AcasterLee Acaster Member Posts: 5
    edited 23 April 2017, 7:51AM
    Ursa said:

    To give them more time to fix the awful Recording list .....

    My box just updated yesterday , the recording menu is appalling. I know what I have recorded, I don't need to see pictures of them, just a chronological list so I can quickly choose what to watch. Form over function.
  • Lee AcasterLee Acaster Member Posts: 5
    edited 12 April 2017, 9:31AM
    Ursa said:

    To give them more time to fix the awful Recording list .....

    My box just updated yesterday , the recording menu is appalling. I know what I have recorded, I don't need to see pictures of them, just a chronological list so I can quickly choose what to watch. Form over function.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,303 ✭✭✭
    edited 10 April 2017, 7:19PM
    Visionman said:

    In the interests of viewability & trackability, could this thread now be locked as versions have moved on since?

    Lee Acaster>
    "My box just updated yesterday , the recording menu is appalling. I know what I have recorded, I don't need to see pictures of them, just a chronological list so I can quickly choose what to watch. Form over function."
    This thread is now well out of date, Lee.
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • Lee AcasterLee Acaster Member Posts: 5
    edited 10 April 2017, 7:39PM
    Visionman said:

    In the interests of viewability & trackability, could this thread now be locked as versions have moved on since?

    Thanks. I came here via google in an attempt to find a way to reset my box to the old version. Will there be a new feedback thread somewhere?
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