List view

John I DaviesJohn I Davies Member Posts: 4
edited 10 August 2017, 7:38PM in Feedback
Bring back List View. Picture view is annoying and hard to use

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  • BrianABrianA Member Posts: 6
    edited 10 August 2017, 7:38PM
    Couldn't agree more.  Also, shorten the period of time that the  info bar at the bottom of the screen lingers there, blocking subtitles, etc., for nearly seven seconds.
  • James FletcherJames Fletcher Member Posts: 14
    edited 4 June 2017, 1:17AM
    BrianA said:

    Couldn't agree more.  Also, shorten the period of time that the  info bar at the bottom of the screen lingers there, blocking subtitles, etc., for nearly seven seconds.

    Each feature should be customisable. EG linger time 0.5secs / 1 sec / 2 secs etc.
  • John I DaviesJohn I Davies Member Posts: 4
    edited 29 April 2017, 11:17AM
    No sign of Humax/Youview bringing back list view.
    Here's my old Tweets -
    In reply to YouView and 2 more
    johnidavies
    [email protected]
    Apr 18

    What do @RNIB think, I wonder?


    johnidavies
    johnidavies@YouView & @HumaxUK have gone quiet on recent GUI "upgrade". Horrible for most, hightmare for @ElDingoMartin & partially sighted REVERT!!

    Time for another Tweet -
    Nothing from @YouView & @HumaxUK #bringbacklistview - time for @RNIB to pitch in?
  • warren prestonwarren preston Member Posts: 4
    edited 28 July 2017, 7:57PM
    Why do they do this without giving you the option to change it to list view. They have created something that is slower and harder to find your recordings just so it looks better at first I thought the whole new look was great until I tried to use it. It's becoming me harder to see what you need to find and is slower the guide crawls now
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 15,819 ✭✭✭
    edited 17 July 2017, 6:49PM
    Your comment may well explain the glaring disparity between the results of focus groups - 'it looks better, at first I thought the whole new look was great' and actual user reports - 'until I tried to use it'.

    But it should not be slow in any way, except by dint of taking the user longer to scan perhaps. What model of box is it? What is it exactly that is slower?

    Have you tried a soft reset - while not recording nor about to, press the On/Standby button/ring on the fascia of the box for just over 8 seconds, until it soft reboots.

    This can improve things.

    Then try the Recordings benchmark - position yourself on the top left tile on page 1 of the recordings, and press the right arrow for exactly ten seconds. How far through your recordings do you get?
    Three cheers for reasoned debate, whether for or against
  • WayneWayne Member Posts: 82
    edited 18 May 2017, 11:51AM
    Roy1 said:

    Your comment may well explain the glaring disparity between the results of focus groups - 'it looks better, at first I thought the whole new look was great' and actual user reports - 'until I tried to use it'.

    But it should not be slow in any way, except by dint of taking the user longer to scan perhaps. What model of box is it? What is it exactly that is slower?

    Have you tried a soft reset - while not recording nor about to, press the On/Standby button/ring on the fascia of the box for just over 8 seconds, until it soft reboots.

    This can improve things.

    Then try the Recordings benchmark - position yourself on the top left tile on page 1 of the recordings, and press the right arrow for exactly ten seconds. How far through your recordings do you get?

    For comparison, my T2100 travelled accross 36 tiles in 10 seconds.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 15,819 ✭✭✭
    edited 18 May 2017, 12:07PM
    Roy1 said:

    Your comment may well explain the glaring disparity between the results of focus groups - 'it looks better, at first I thought the whole new look was great' and actual user reports - 'until I tried to use it'.

    But it should not be slow in any way, except by dint of taking the user longer to scan perhaps. What model of box is it? What is it exactly that is slower?

    Have you tried a soft reset - while not recording nor about to, press the On/Standby button/ring on the fascia of the box for just over 8 seconds, until it soft reboots.

    This can improve things.

    Then try the Recordings benchmark - position yourself on the top left tile on page 1 of the recordings, and press the right arrow for exactly ten seconds. How far through your recordings do you get?

    My T1000, as I previously reported, traversed 27.

    My T2000, like your T2100, got to the 36th tile.

    I have no speed complaints with NextGen; do you?

    Looks like we have ourselves a benchmark.
    Three cheers for reasoned debate, whether for or against
  • WayneWayne Member Posts: 82
    edited 18 May 2017, 12:23PM
    Roy1 said:

    Your comment may well explain the glaring disparity between the results of focus groups - 'it looks better, at first I thought the whole new look was great' and actual user reports - 'until I tried to use it'.

    But it should not be slow in any way, except by dint of taking the user longer to scan perhaps. What model of box is it? What is it exactly that is slower?

    Have you tried a soft reset - while not recording nor about to, press the On/Standby button/ring on the fascia of the box for just over 8 seconds, until it soft reboots.

    This can improve things.

    Then try the Recordings benchmark - position yourself on the top left tile on page 1 of the recordings, and press the right arrow for exactly ten seconds. How far through your recordings do you get?

    On the whole I'm happy with the speed of NextGen. Certainly no complaints in comparison to OldGen!
  • J3J3 Member Posts: 8
    edited 4 June 2017, 12:22AM
    BrianA said:

    Couldn't agree more.  Also, shorten the period of time that the  info bar at the bottom of the screen lingers there, blocking subtitles, etc., for nearly seven seconds.

    I fully agree. I've sent a complaint about the update issues, took me a while to find an e-mail contact page, no suprise. You'd think a communications company would be very willing to communicate via e-mail , this is the page i used.
    bt.custhelp.com/app/contact_email/c/5642,5646
  • J3J3 Member Posts: 8
    edited 28 July 2017, 7:57PM

    Why do they do this without giving you the option to change it to list view. They have created something that is slower and harder to find your recordings just so it looks better at first I thought the whole new look was great until I tried to use it. It's becoming me harder to see what you need to find and is slower the guide crawls now

    Bad management and forethought it would be easy to give us the option i would have thought. If not then the box was not designed properly to start with.
  • SarahBSarahB Member Posts: 4
    edited 29 July 2017, 11:39PM
    I also want the old list view back. Much quicker and easier to see everything. And I want the latest recording first back. Hate this update.
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,089 ✭✭✭
    edited 28 July 2017, 8:26PM
    Sarah B said:

    I also want the old list view back. Much quicker and easier to see everything. And I want the latest recording first back. Hate this update.

    Sorry to hear that Sarah. The list view is almost certainly not coming back. I am not sure what you mean by "the latest recording first," that is the order in which they are presented. Unless you mean within a series, in which case the oldest is presented first on the understandable basis that people generally want to watch a series that way. And which was changed thus due to popular demand.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 15,819 ✭✭✭
    edited 28 July 2017, 10:27PM
    Sarah B said:

    I also want the old list view back. Much quicker and easier to see everything. And I want the latest recording first back. Hate this update.

    Nearly - Series have always been presented earliest first. What has changed is which episode you land on when you go into a series - initially it was the latest, but now, as wished for by the majority, it is the earliest.

    If the options to Wrap Left (to latest), Wrap Right (to earliest), and Skip to Earliest Unwatched were provided, I think this would meet most needs - including yours, Sarah B? - without need to change the sort sequence of episodes.
    Three cheers for reasoned debate, whether for or against
  • redchizredchiz Member, Super User Posts: 5,089 ✭✭✭
    edited 28 July 2017, 10:33PM
    Sarah B said:

    I also want the old list view back. Much quicker and easier to see everything. And I want the latest recording first back. Hate this update.

    Apologies Sarah, I was trying to establish precisely what you meant, but Roy is such a YouView expert that he knows better than you or I do before you have even responded.
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 9,833 ✭✭✭
    edited 28 July 2017, 10:53PM
    Sarah B said:

    I also want the old list view back. Much quicker and easier to see everything. And I want the latest recording first back. Hate this update.

    Roy -
    I've suggested this before, but none of NextGen's features have a wrap around nature. And I literally mean not one. It is a downfall to be sure.
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 15,819 ✭✭✭
    edited 28 July 2017, 10:59PM
    Sarah B said:

    I also want the old list view back. Much quicker and easier to see everything. And I want the latest recording first back. Hate this update.

    But as you yourself discovered for us, the miniguide does; it wraps around from the top to the bottom of the EPG.
    Three cheers for reasoned debate, whether for or against
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