Just a note about the back button. It does indeed get rid of the blue panel when in live tv or recordings but in catch-up tv via iplayers it exits you from the service. Not very consistent & very confusing!
How are you getting the YouView Obscurial, which is what this deals with, up in catchup via the players?
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Just a note about the back button. It does indeed get rid of the blue panel when in live tv or recordings but in catch-up tv via iplayers it exits you from the service. Not very consistent & very confusing!
Sorry, it's not the same is it? But I tried to clear the obscuring info panel after pausing etc. when using 4play. Maybe it's always done that, I'm not sure. Anyway, I still think there is an inconsistency when the same button does two different things depending how you're watching.
Just a note about the back button. It does indeed get rid of the blue panel when in live tv or recordings but in catch-up tv via iplayers it exits you from the service. Not very consistent & very confusing!
YouView don't have that much control over the Players.
It's probably more important to the BBC, etc., that their players have pretty much the same interface everywhere, subject only to the restrictions of working from a remote control for the non-computer versions.
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I very rarely comment on these forums but this blue banner is really starting to annoy me. With the poor audio quality on many popular drama's mixed with the desire to play loud 'mood music' I now need to switch on the subtitles on more frequently and this banner (the blue at bottom of the viewing screen) prevents me viewing the subtitles if I wish to go back to review what happened a few moments earlier. I also find it very annoying when watching football rewinding to review action and also find that it blanks out the news banners (BBC News Ch 107) if I wish to reread. In this day and age surely I company like BT at the forefront of technology should be able to give us the option to switch this facility on or off rather than impose it on us all. Just give us the choice that's all I ask.
Good post, chilton55555. Maybe BT will take this on board as there is more divergence from the central YouView model, although you would need to perhaps post on their community directly for them to hear you. I would prefer it if your suggestions were captured across the board. And do be aware that you are far from alone in expressing these points.
@chilton55555 I presume you know pressing ‘back’ on the remote gets rid of the blue immediately. i am not sure I know of any system that doesn’t bring up a play bar when you press a command, the biggest issue seems to be the size and time it remains. Like I said both are removed immediately if you press back.
I presume the subtitles don’t display when in ff/rew mode (never tried). If not then of course it does as everything goes the second you press it. So press rew to where you want then press stop and back and bingo empty screen
Again you are presuming for me. Of course I have tried it, all the time in fact. It takes less than a second. You (not being a BT customer) obviously haven’t tried it. anyway let’s give the person I was addressing the chance to answer...
What has it go to do with being a BT customer? I just took the trouble to reacquaint myself with the issue. Even without subtitles selected (or worse, where they are intrinsic with foreign language) I skipped back as I might if I didn't hear something properly and a banner comes up telling me what channel and programme I am watching. Really, I didn't know? With subtitles that banner obscures them. If you cannot see that as any kind of interruption to your viewing pleasure then that's fine by me, but please try to see the alternative point of view.
I don't press Stop after skipping, let alone Back, why would I? It defeats the purpose. Look guys here's this great feature, you can skip back 15 seconds. But make sure you click Stop and/or Back so that you can remove an unwanted and unneeded obscurant from view. Cool.
I actually don’t disagree with you, I was just trying to help by pointing out there is a way to get rid of it straight away just in case they didn’t know. It might help even if it is not ideal.
Ah, OK. Yes I do know. The point is precisely that it's not ideal. And with subtitles trust me, it doesn't work, it means you have to go back a bit further and do it agin.
The way this thread has turned isn't funny, so please lets just draw a line under it, please. BT initally started testing subtitled films with 94 titles. They now have currently have over 1040. Getting rid of the blue haze is easy enough with one key press. Oh my poor finger. I mean, really?
I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
Hey, I thought our feisty, yet pertinent discussion had reached a reasonable end. And you clearly haven't read it in detail, one key press, really? But obviously not, you need to step in to tell us otherwise, OK boss, whatever you say.
We all know redchiz stance But just to finish on a positive I think I would like to give BT a slight pat on the back. Seeing as you brought up films visionman I just checked things (including entertainment, catch up etc) in the bt player and I have noticed that when subtitles are on with these, when you use any play commands (rew/ff/skip etc) then the subtitles are moved up the screen above the blue for the duration the blue is on screen. You therefore continue to see all the subtitles clearly at all times (they move back automatically when the blue goes)
I had to use pause to get a picture but I can confirm the subtitles are there and changing all the time even during ff/rew event. Also for normal channels it actually takes a few seconds for the subtitles to start again anyway after rew or skip, so the millisecond it takes to press back (after you have just pressed skip) makes no difference to missing ANY subtitles compared to if the blue wasn't there.
That’s OK. I have in my email trail, for posterity
I have a notification saying I was mentioned in it but not the actual post. Probably best I didn't see it going by what normally happens if you actually say anything positive on here
I have a notification saying I was mentioned in it but not the actual post. Probably best I didn't see it going by what normally happens if you actually say anything positive on here
No nothing unpleasant @scott . I just asked what version of software you were running. Then I realised that what you had posted about was the BT player. Doh.
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It's probably more important to the BBC, etc., that their players have pretty much the same interface everywhere, subject only to the restrictions of working from a remote control for the non-computer versions.
i am not sure I know of any system that doesn’t bring up a play bar when you press a command, the biggest issue seems to be the size and time it remains. Like I said both are removed immediately if you press back.
anyway let’s give the person I was addressing the chance to answer...
i know of course you redchiz know everything
But the sad fact is that it doesn't do it straight away.
BT initally started testing subtitled films with 94 titles. They now have currently have over 1040. Getting rid of the blue haze is easy enough with one key press. Oh my poor finger.
I mean, really?
BT YouView update 27.50.0
Do you have it?
I had to use pause to get a picture but I can confirm the subtitles are there and changing all the time even during ff/rew event.
Also for normal channels it actually takes a few seconds for the subtitles to start again anyway after rew or skip, so the millisecond it takes to press back (after you have just pressed skip) makes no difference to missing ANY subtitles compared to if the blue wasn't there.
That’s OK. I have in my email trail, for posterity
I just asked what version of software you were running.
Then I realised that what you had posted about was the BT player.
Doh.