[Discussion] Sony TV (2015 model) Android software update

Philip TrottPhilip Trott Posts: 1,040Administrator admin
edited 2 October 2017, 8:36PM in Announcements
Hi all,

Feel free to discuss the latest software update PKG3.885 for the 2015 Sony TV range in this thread.
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  • QuinnicusQuinnicus Posts: 48Member
    edited 1 July 2017, 10:18PM
    Nothing really to discuss about this firmware.  Does seem to do much harm, but in turn doesnt seem to do much at all.

    Unless you guys want to enable HDD Recording with YouView enabled on your own accord (would be nice!)
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 9,545Member ✭✭✭
    edited 1 July 2017, 10:32PM
    You mean Doesn't of course, Q?
  • QuinnicusQuinnicus Posts: 48Member
    edited 1 July 2017, 10:34PM
    Yeah sure - why not.  Thats what I meant :)   That edit button disappears too soon !
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 9,545Member ✭✭✭
    edited 24 September 2017, 8:07PM
    Listen... What YouViewers have now is all they are going to get.Even if YouView approached them (humm) about updating and they said 'No, no point'. Theres no point in updating to NexGen but they will not offer recording facilities as that wasn't in the agreement, allegedly. Which is probably down to rights issues. So what one sees is what one gets.
  • QuinnicusQuinnicus Posts: 48Member
    edited 24 September 2017, 8:07PM
    I know VM, I know :)

    Although YouView could be a socialist company instead and do it for the good of humanity and the betterment of the human race?  A leap from Star Trek's book.  What you recon?

    Edit: Maybe I need to stay off the vino
  • DanielDaniel Posts: 1,951Member ✭✭✭
    edited 1 July 2017, 10:55PM
    Visionman said:

    Listen... What YouViewers have now is all they are going to get.Even if YouView approached them (humm) about updating and they said 'No, no point'. Theres no point in updating to NexGen but they will not offer recording facilities as that wasn't in the agreement, allegedly. Which is probably down to rights issues. So what one sees is what one gets.

    I couldn't see anything else been added to these sony tvs myself either. If youview are reluctant to allow USB storage though a youview box what chance does the tvs have of getting a feature added that allows recording to external hard drives. In my opinion the way to go is a decent Samsung TV with a decent youview box x2 and a sky q box and sound bar but that's just me each to there own though I guess mate.
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 9,545Member ✭✭✭
    edited 1 July 2017, 11:23PM
    Quinnicus said:

    I know VM, I know :)

    Although YouView could be a socialist company instead and do it for the good of humanity and the betterment of the human race?  A leap from Star Trek's book.  What you recon?

    Edit: Maybe I need to stay off the vino

    LOL.
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 9,545Member ✭✭✭
    edited 1 July 2017, 11:26PM
    Quinnicus said:

    I know VM, I know :)

    Although YouView could be a socialist company instead and do it for the good of humanity and the betterment of the human race?  A leap from Star Trek's book.  What you recon?

    Edit: Maybe I need to stay off the vino

    YouView have made one agreement with Sony though, the first in the history of Smart TVs, in that they will guarantee updates for the life of the TV. Thats actually a milestone.
  • QuinnicusQuinnicus Posts: 48Member
    edited 1 July 2017, 11:39PM
    Quinnicus said:

    I know VM, I know :)

    Although YouView could be a socialist company instead and do it for the good of humanity and the betterment of the human race?  A leap from Star Trek's book.  What you recon?

    Edit: Maybe I need to stay off the vino

    Im about to accept an agreement with TomTom - Lifetime map updates

    *Note : Lifetime means the useful life of the device, i.e. the period of time TomTom supports your device with updates, services, content or accessories. A device will have reached the end of its life when none of these are available any more.

    What Im getting at is: what is the definition of "life of the TV"? Im sure, somewhere in the contract it will define that.

    Anyway thats neither here nor there for many, as after say 5 to 6 years, many would be thinking about replacement by then (if they havent already). TVs do not seem to last as long as they once used to - besides technology changes so fast these days and even if its not broken, you most likely want to upgrade to newer features etc etc.
  • QuinnicusQuinnicus Posts: 48Member
    edited 3 July 2017, 9:09AM
    Quinnicus said:

    I know VM, I know :)

    Although YouView could be a socialist company instead and do it for the good of humanity and the betterment of the human race?  A leap from Star Trek's book.  What you recon?

    Edit: Maybe I need to stay off the vino

    Im about to accept an agreement with TomTom - Lifetime map updates

    *Note : Lifetime means the useful life of the device, i.e. the period of time TomTom supports your device with updates, services, content or accessories. A device will have reached the end of its life when none of these are available any more.

    What Im getting at is: what is the definition of "life of the TV"? Im sure, somewhere in the contract it will define that.

    Anyway thats neither here nor there for many, as after say 5 to 6 years, many would be thinking about replacement by then (if they havent already). TVs do not seem to last as long as they once used to - besides technology changes so fast these days and even if its not broken, you most likely want to upgrade to newer features etc etc.
  • QuinnicusQuinnicus Posts: 48Member
    edited 1 July 2017, 11:43PM
    Quinnicus said:

    I know VM, I know :)

    Although YouView could be a socialist company instead and do it for the good of humanity and the betterment of the human race?  A leap from Star Trek's book.  What you recon?

    Edit: Maybe I need to stay off the vino

    Argh - duplicate post that I cannot remove. Apologies.
  • DanielDaniel Posts: 1,951Member ✭✭✭
    edited 1 July 2017, 11:49PM
    Quinnicus said:

    I know VM, I know :)

    Although YouView could be a socialist company instead and do it for the good of humanity and the betterment of the human race?  A leap from Star Trek's book.  What you recon?

    Edit: Maybe I need to stay off the vino

    Did you mean to post this twice or where you trying to edit your post or is it me getting double vision. I hope it's not the last one because it would mean a second eye operation for me lol.
  • DanielDaniel Posts: 1,951Member ✭✭✭
    edited 1 July 2017, 11:51PM
    Quinnicus said:

    I know VM, I know :)

    Although YouView could be a socialist company instead and do it for the good of humanity and the betterment of the human race?  A leap from Star Trek's book.  What you recon?

    Edit: Maybe I need to stay off the vino

    There is normally a option to remove your post it only appears if no one has replied to the post. I will remove this in ten minutes then if you remove yours and see if it appears. The remove is normally near the edit button.
  • RoyRoy Posts: 15,249Member ✭✭✭
    edited 2 July 2017, 8:56AM
    Visionman said:

    Listen... What YouViewers have now is all they are going to get.Even if YouView approached them (humm) about updating and they said 'No, no point'. Theres no point in updating to NexGen but they will not offer recording facilities as that wasn't in the agreement, allegedly. Which is probably down to rights issues. So what one sees is what one gets.

    Visionman

    While I agree with your analysis that what we see of YouView on these Sony TVs is all we will ever see - so that for me, it is a damp squib that has finally fizzled out (sorry, YouView), I would ask for a citation for your assertion that YouView was never going to record on these sets.

    And what rights issue could possibly arise if YouView could record, that doesn't arise on the Freeview side, which can record?
    This might at last be getting back to the YouView that I knew.  :|
    Holding my breath....
  • RoyRoy Posts: 15,249Member ✭✭✭
    edited 2 July 2017, 10:33AM
    Quinnicus said:

    I know VM, I know :)

    Although YouView could be a socialist company instead and do it for the good of humanity and the betterment of the human race?  A leap from Star Trek's book.  What you recon?

    Edit: Maybe I need to stay off the vino

    I'm sure Quinnicus knows that, Daniel.

    The problem with some of these duplicate posts that GetSat creates is that they don't let you delete them.
    This might at last be getting back to the YouView that I knew.  :|
    Holding my breath....
  • VisionmanVisionman Posts: 9,545Member ✭✭✭
    edited 2 July 2017, 9:31AM
    Visionman said:

    Listen... What YouViewers have now is all they are going to get.Even if YouView approached them (humm) about updating and they said 'No, no point'. Theres no point in updating to NexGen but they will not offer recording facilities as that wasn't in the agreement, allegedly. Which is probably down to rights issues. So what one sees is what one gets.

    I have none. But you know I'm right. Sadly.
  • RoyRoy Posts: 15,249Member ✭✭✭
    edited 2 July 2017, 10:16AM
    Quinnicus said:

    I know VM, I know :)

    Although YouView could be a socialist company instead and do it for the good of humanity and the betterment of the human race?  A leap from Star Trek's book.  What you recon?

    Edit: Maybe I need to stay off the vino

    Oh, and the life of a device may be reckoned as six years, based on UK consumer law.

    Even John Lewis flag apps on their smart TVs as not guaranteed to remain there, though. I think that's wrong, and possibly contrary to consumer law.

    Certainly for apps advertised on the packaging, and which haven't suffered force majeure and died altogether.

    e.g. for any TV that was bought as the current model in mid-2011 and supplied and advertised as having the BBC iPlayer, the manufacturer is obligated to support a later version of the IPlayer until now, mid-2017, if the BBC choose to discontinue the iPlayer version that it was supplied with, or else the consumer is entitled to redress.

    Or maybe the BBC should be obligated to support any version of the iPlayer for a six-year life?
    This might at last be getting back to the YouView that I knew.  :|
    Holding my breath....
  • DJHB1980DJHB1980 Posts: 132Member
    edited 2 July 2017, 5:12PM
    Has anyone tried to put the Android Nougat (7.0) update
    on their 2015 TV.
    I have a KDL43W809CBU,
    I have been told on the Sony Forums to wait for the update,
    but impatience within wants me to try.

    The Marshmallow update is bland and uninspiring now.
    There is no real added visual features
    and Nougat is coming
    so it's always going to be stability,
    which is welcome but boring.
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