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• Daniel Posts: 1,951Member ✭✭✭

  2 January 2018, 10:01PM

  I know 100% for a fact you have been given incorrect information. All you will lose is access to the bt player, the bt pay internet channels and all recordings from the internet channels. All other players work as before no matter what internet provider you use. The freeview channels and any recordings from freeview channels are unaffected and work. You will still be able to record from freeview channels.

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• uksaint7 Posts: 4Member ✭

  2 January 2018, 10:04PM

  Thanks Daniel, I did a bit of research prior to making my decision and thought that was the case. Really I am not impressed with BT for telling me they would freeze my hard drive in an attempt to get me to stay, I have half a mind to make a complaint.

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• Daniel Posts: 1,951Member ✭✭✭

  2 January 2018, 10:09PM

  That would be for you to decide. Whether or not others may say something similar to try to encourage you to stay is another matter. What I can tell you I have a BT DTR t 4000 youview but on a Vodafone line with no issues at all. Others have been given similar information in the past and it's really disappointing that it's still happening. Can you pass this on to bt @Sarah

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• uksaint7 Posts: 4Member ✭

  2 January 2018, 10:17PM

  Indeed. I even challenged him on it and he insisted that what he had said would happen. And they do supposedly record all these conversations..
  
  Anyway I'm just happy that I'm going to get most of the functionality for a lot less money

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• Daniel Posts: 1,951Member ✭✭✭

  2 January 2018, 10:20PM

  What I would say once your switch goes though come back to this thread and we can tell you how to get the retail skins on your boxes it's a lot more neater than the bt skin and you lose all the bt logos in the guide etc as well as the pay channels you can't access. It's straight forward.

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• uksaint7 Posts: 4Member ✭

  2 January 2018, 11:38PM

  Thanks Daniel, I will do 👍

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• Sarah Posts: 1,361Administrator admin

  3 January 2018, 9:16AM

  Hi @uksaint7
  
  I've dropped you an email regarding this, it'd be great if you can respond when possible so we can look into this
  
  Thanks,
  Sarah

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• al Posts: 1,298Member ✭✭✭

  3 January 2018, 9:37AM

  If you've only used the BT app before I think you will be very pleased with the standard Youview app. To me they are complete opposites in regard to usability.

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• Sarah Posts: 1,361Administrator admin

  3 January 2018, 11:15AM

  Hi all, 
  
  I think this has been posted in the past however I think it's good to post again for users who land on this thread when browsing the forum or doing a search. 
  
  This is the official statement from BT regarding the status of your box should you decide to leave BT. 
  
  Thanks,
  Sarah

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• [Deleted User] Posts: 11 ✭✭

  3 January 2018, 12:08PM

  Sarah said:

  Hi all, 
  
  I think this has been posted in the past however I think it's good to post again for users who land on this thread when browsing the forum or doing a search. 
  
  This is the official statement from BT regarding the status of your box should you decide to leave BT. 
  
  Thanks,
  Sarah

  
  Unfortunately in most cases when BT customers attempt to cancel they are told all sorts of lies. Their own forums are full of instances. The customer advisers are far too often telling those wishing to cancel that their box will effectively become a brick or they'll lose access to recording features on Freeview channels and/or lose access to the free tv apps (iplayer etc). 

  

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• scott Posts: 2,007Member ✭✭✭

  3 January 2018, 12:14PM edited 3 January 2018, 12:16PM

  al said:

  If you've only used the BT app before I think you will be very pleased with the standard Youview app. To me they are complete opposites in regard to usability.

  
  @al I suppose it depends what you want them for. The BT app is great for watching the extra channels on the move, seeing what TV and films are available to buy on the BT store, continuing watching my programmes and watching catch-up content. I also like the fact is has the number of the channels in the TV guide and you can filter the channels also..

  But I also agree for booking recordings and checking my recordings/scheduled I use the YouView app (I particularly like the way it offers HD when available when booking a recording)....

  I expect both to be upgraded even more this year

  
  

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• Roy Posts: 15,249Member ✭✭✭

  3 January 2018, 12:14PM

  Robert said:

  Sarah said:

  Hi all, 
  
  I think this has been posted in the past however I think it's good to post again for users who land on this thread when browsing the forum or doing a search. 
  
  This is the official statement from BT regarding the status of your box should you decide to leave BT. 
  
  Thanks,
  Sarah

  
  Unfortunately in most cases when BT customers attempt to cancel they are told all sorts of lies. Their own forums are full of instances. The customer advisers are far too often telling those wishing to cancel that their box will effectively become a brick or they'll lose access to recording features on Freeview channels and/or lose access to the free tv apps (iplayer etc). 

  
  Posted 2014, and still not in the armoury of every call centre advisor used by BT? 
  
  It's all very well it being there to be pointed to, but it's not exactly at the coalface, where it should be, is it?

  This might at last be getting back to the YouView that I knew. 
  Holding my breath....

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• Niggle Posts: 59Member ✭

  6 January 2018, 11:43AM

  Daniel said:

  What I would say once your switch goes though come back to this thread and we can tell you how to get the retail skins on your boxes it's a lot more neater than the bt skin and you lose all the bt logos in the guide etc as well as the pay channels you can't access. It's straight forward.

  Hi Daniel, I have recently (effective from yesterday) dropped the TV package from my BT account, so would be very interested in this process. Can you share some details?
  Many thanks, Nigel

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• Daniel Posts: 1,951Member ✭✭✭

  6 January 2018, 11:59AM

  Niggle said:

  Daniel said:

  What I would say once your switch goes though come back to this thread and we can tell you how to get the retail skins on your boxes it's a lot more neater than the bt skin and you lose all the bt logos in the guide etc as well as the pay channels you can't access. It's straight forward.

  Hi Daniel, I have recently (effective from yesterday) dropped the TV package from my BT account, so would be very interested in this process. Can you share some details?
  Many thanks, Nigel

  It's only possible if you have left BT broadband otherwise you are stuck with it even if the TV is cancelled.

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• [Deleted User] Posts: 0 ✭

  23 February 2018, 10:22AM

  You’ll be able to use the boxes as standard Youview boxes but you won’t have access to Bt subscription services such as sport. BT are lying to you. You can buy BT boxes in the high street and use them without any connection to Bt.

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• Roy Posts: 15,249Member ✭✭✭

  23 February 2018, 10:59AM

  Joesunlight said:

  You’ll be able to use the boxes as standard Youview boxes but you won’t have access to Bt subscription services such as sport. BT are lying to you. You can buy BT boxes in the high street and use them without any connection to Bt.

  While what you say is true (if somewhat belated) it is worth pointing out that BT Retail boxes are different Model/Variants from the subscription ones, and so you cannot necessarily extrapolate from one to the other.

  This might at last be getting back to the YouView that I knew. 
  Holding my breath....

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• Visionman Posts: 9,545Member ✭✭✭

  23 February 2018, 9:51PM

  Roy said:

  Joesunlight said:

  You’ll be able to use the boxes as standard Youview boxes but you won’t have access to Bt subscription services such as sport. BT are lying to you. You can buy BT boxes in the high street and use them without any connection to Bt.

  While what you say is true (if somewhat belated) it is worth pointing out that BT Retail boxes are different Model/Variants from the subscription ones, and so you cannot necessarily extrapolate from one to the other.

  What?

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• Roy Posts: 15,249Member ✭✭✭

  23 February 2018, 10:36PM

  Visionman said:

  Roy said:

  Joesunlight said:

  You’ll be able to use the boxes as standard Youview boxes but you won’t have access to Bt subscription services such as sport. BT are lying to you. You can buy BT boxes in the high street and use them without any connection to Bt.

  While what you say is true (if somewhat belated) it is worth pointing out that BT Retail boxes are different Model/Variants from the subscription ones, and so you cannot necessarily extrapolate from one to the other.

  What?

  Let me guess. You are having trouble with the indubitably true, in logic, statement I have made because it appears to clash with certain empirical truths that you know - as indeed do I. Look closer - there is no such clash.

  This might at last be getting back to the YouView that I knew. 
  Holding my breath....

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• Visionman Posts: 9,545Member ✭✭✭

  23 February 2018, 10:41PM

  Ohh.. posh language! But at the end of the day, how is a BT retail box different to a subscription one? 

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• Roy Posts: 15,249Member ✭✭✭

  24 February 2018, 8:40AM

  Visionman said:

  Ohh.. posh language! But at the end of the day, how is a BT retail box different to a subscription one? 

  It has a 3 instead of a 0 in the 7th position of its Variant number.
  
  BT use this to differentiate what releases they get, and when.
  
  So BT could - although at present they don’t - perfectly well use this to differentiate whether a subscription box locks up, like the BT Vision boxes used to, and like the Sky Q boxes do now, when somebody drops BT TV.
  
  Unless there is something in BT’s agreement with YouView, which we are not privy to, which says they can never do this, even when the BT development stream really forks off?

  This might at last be getting back to the YouView that I knew. 
  Holding my breath....

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• redchiz Posts: 4,965Member ✭✭✭

  24 February 2018, 12:23PM edited 24 February 2018, 12:24PM

  Interesting speculation there Roy. You think BT "could" do this and that there is nothing in the YouView terms of service or various agreements between parties which would preclude this? If BT really wanted to fork off its customers then that would certainly do it. 
  
  Sky used to take this approach, but no longer with Sky Q, they just insist that you send the box back if you cancel your Sky TV subscription.

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