no channel info
billdonohoe
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channelview ok all channels showing up to 10:30pm but from 10:30pm all main channels (002,003,004 etc & 102,103,104 etc) say 'NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE'. I have retuned
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billdonohoe
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I would recommend rebooting your router and then the box. It should re-populate within and no more than an hour.
Re Qu 2: here, we can read:-
In Europe, the European Telecommunications Standards Institute (ETSI) published standard ETS 300 707 to standardize the delivery of IPG data over digital television broadcast signals. Listings data for IPGs integrated into digital terrestrial television and radio receivers of the present day is typically sent within each station's MPEG transport stream, or alongside it in a special data stream.
"Listings data for IPGs integrated into digital terrestrial television and radio receivers of the present day is typically sent within each station's MPEG transport stream, "
"OR alongside it in a special data stream."
Despite Stephens dislike, YouView doesn't use Freeviews EPG and thats a fact.
All past EPG information will instantly disappear.
What’s keeping the future EPG information alive, then?
And here are two screenshots of the same current programme display, first without the Ethernet connection, and secondly with :-
I know how I explain the differences, and indeed why the first presentation isn’t entirely blank.
But how do you explain it?
EDIT: Actually that statement is no longer correct. Having played around a little, it appears that the enhanced info does have stuff that used to be missing. Oh dear - red face!
John.
If you pull your eternet THEN you will receive a Freeview EPG. This is because YouView is on a list of STBs that are logged to receive it.
“Despite Stephen’s dislike, YouView doesn't use Freeview’s EPG and that’s a fact.”
“If you pull your Ethernet THEN you will receive a Freeview EPG”
And re Stephen, it was a Disagree, not a Dislike. But it’s a brave (or foolhardy) person who tries to contradict someone, like Stephen, who has access to the source code
The last three modes of discovery are supported by Platform metadata served from a centralised Metadata Aggregation System operated by the Platform and accessed by the consumer device over its IP network interface.
The first mode of discovery ensures that a schedule is available for channels from non-participating Content Providers. It also provides a fallback source of schedule metadata to cover outages in IP network connectivity, and enables the consumer device to operate as a basic DVB receiver–decoder and Digital Video Recorder where it is installed without connection to an IP network.
(Discovery of content through third-party "portal" applications is also supported by the Platform, but is not considered further here because this mode is independent of the Platform Main UI application and is not achieved through the use of aggregated Platform metadata.)
Platform metadata is contributed into the centralised Metadata Aggregation System by participating Content Providers via a Platform-defined Business-to-Business metadata contribution technical interface.
The contributed metadata is transformed by the Metadata Aggregation System into a form that can more easily be consumed by the consumer device and is exposed as a Business-to-Consumer metadata feed in the form of an HTTP-based web service. This corresponds to interface MD4 in the DTG D-Book 7, Part B Section 3.5 and constitutes an implementation-specific metadata delivery interface in that model.
My emphasis above. The document regrettably does not cover the cessation of excavation by those already in a subterranean location.
YouViews main UI application aggregated platform metadata uses an aggregated portal system integrated into its EPG. Do Freeview provide that? Well, No.
Assuming this was a minor derangement in the running software, in either the router or the box, Visionman’s advice should have proved effective.
And that the OP has not returned indicates it probably did.
YouView probably need to investigate the dusty corner case that the software got itself into, possibly one that cannot even be reached by uncorrupted, correctly running, software and decide if it should be doing what it did there, or if it should be falling back to the OTA EPG.
Which, as it would mask the issue, perhaps it shouldn’t.
As we are debating fact, not opinion, there really should be no room for goats here.
But unless the information you think Piers can supply was vouchsafed to you in a private conversation - not impossible, but if that was the case, how could the rest of us know it? - there should be a record of it somewhere, and you could give us a citation.
The difficulty that I see with your position is that it would require every ‘Sewing Bee in Old 4:3’ marginal Freeview channel to contribute specifically to YouView’s store of metadata.
Whereas I doubt that they do, and believe they are what YouView above call non-contributing Providers, just about managing to provide the minimum Freeview OTA EPG information, which YouView likewise picks up OTA to populate that line of its EPG.
I tested my box early doors (prior to the NextGen downgrade) as a friend was interested in it as I was telling him how good youview used to be and he didn't have internet, old gen certainly did this, I did a factory reset and pulled the plug to my router. You could even get past the requirement for an internet question during setup back then.