Power adapters

So, I was told I could get two power adapters to save using wires. I was informed that I do not have to use the main plug on the wall for one of the adapters. I can use an extension but it turns out I cannot use an extension lead socket. I do not have a double plug socket near my router so I’ll have to use a long lead which is daft. 
Help? What else to do neutral:

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  • John LJohn L Member, Super User Posts: 932 ✭✭
    Hi Caroline19,
    Welcome to the forum. You could try with extension lead socket. It has worked on our downstairs setup with no problems. Who gave you the information? The trick is to pair the power line correctly with all the others in your setup. They all use the same electricity from your ringmain ,as long as you keep it switched on all the time. Go and test it. You have nothing to lose. Worth a try. Let the forum know how you get on. Hope it works! John L
    Can't wait for the day when Youview get rid of the dreaded darkened banner when using fast forward/rewind recordings. 
  • GoodbyeGoodbye Time out Posts: 336
    You really do need to avoid extension leads.

    Can't understand the problem 

    Most PLA's come with a socket attached anyway so you wouldn't need a extension. 
  • John LJohn L Member, Super User Posts: 932 ✭✭
    edited 24 October 2019, 9:30AM
    Good morning Goodbye,
    Maybe they purchased something like this (I use these myself)?
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-PA411KIT-Powerline-Adapter-Starter/dp/B0084Y9N3O

    Yes, I agree with not using a long extension lead. But, I thought Caroline19 was refering to a solution such as: trailing 4/6way socket with say 1-2 metres of cable on it? To overcome problem with lack of mains sockets?
    This would solve her problem & woud not affect long cable distance. From an electrician point of view, fitting a extra 2 gang socket would make no difference, as it is the cable run that would be the factor involved. As long as the powerline unit can pick up mains current "signal" to pair it, should be no problem. John L
    Can't wait for the day when Youview get rid of the dreaded darkened banner when using fast forward/rewind recordings. 
  • joneshjonesh Member, Super User Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭
    The Youview help on Using Powerline Adapters says:
    Plug them into a wall socket
    Powerline adapters works best when connected directly to a wall socket. If you don't have a spare wall socket then you can connect them to an extension lead, but try connecting it to the socket closest to the power lead.
  • robotmanrobotman Member Posts: 201
    Buy PLAs with passthrough. An example of what I mean https://www.amazon.co.uk/1800Mbps-Pass-Thru-Powerline-Ethernet-PLA5456-GB0201F/dp/B017HHNFUA
    Your extension cable would then plug into your PLA, not the other way around. It works 😀
    "Flash, Flash, I love you, but we only have 14 hours to save the Earth"
  • John LJohn L Member, Super User Posts: 932 ✭✭
    edited 24 October 2019, 10:47AM
    Hi Robotman,
    Yes if you can afford £84+ for these. The other ones can be purchased for a lot less. I managed to obtain mine for less than £25 shopping around. Caroline19 may have already purchased them & hence maybe too late to return for refund/exchange. Often you have to make do with what you can afford/equipment you have available. Ideally the Youview boxes should have WIFI built in FREE! The Youview boxes cost enough in the first place if purchased at full price or when paying loads of money for a subscription each month!

    Caroline19, do let us know how you get on. Hopefully you manage to overcome your powerline problem & can enjoy using your Youview box. John L
    Can't wait for the day when Youview get rid of the dreaded darkened banner when using fast forward/rewind recordings. 
  • GoodbyeGoodbye Time out Posts: 336
    One final word of caution

    PLA's do not work for everyone, they might sound great on paper but they are only as good as your house wiring.

    Old house,poor wiring then you will probably be better off getting something with wifi capabilities. 


    I have a T4000 in the bedroom blighted by PLA's which I use to record and watch TV as catch up etc is unwatchable 


    streaming is through my wireless £20 roku box and is perfection personified. 

    Why roku can do it and Humax can't is one of lifes mysteries. 
  • andro101010andro101010 Member Posts: 31
    If you can find one of these on ebay it's the best solution that I've found as it combines the extension lead with the powerline. Sadly they're rare beasts these days.
  • caroline19caroline19 Member Posts: 4
    Evening all, and thank you for your replies. Much appreciated Thank you also to Roy, I replied but email rejected :( 
    I bought the AV 600 TP - link... Next to the router in the hallway has only one wall socket, closest to that one is end of he hall. 
    The YouView box in the lounge, so I plugged the main link into the wall which is fine. I live in a flat. 
    I just wasn’t sure as I was told by one person an extension lead is fine, and another told me no. 

    Always difficult to explain when out of sight isn’t it :)

    your time is appreciated. 
    Thank you all. 
  • caroline19caroline19 Member Posts: 4

  • John LJohn L Member, Super User Posts: 932 ✭✭
    Hi Caroline,
    Have you got it working now? Your photo shows a Powerline adaptor & an Extender. A brilliant purchase! Both will work fine with the Youview box + any other devices you use when you add more. The extender (AV-600) will be ideal either as Powerline adaptor or as designed an extender for bad signals if used at other end of home away from the router. You can also run another enternet cable off this (all clearly explained in the instructions) I use a similar extender upstairs. It doubles as an extender plus a powerline adaptor for 2 devices I use.

    YES, you can use a trailing socket (4/6 way) say 1-2 meters length plugged into your socket, simply to expand your single/twin mains socket. But NOT a long cable run: i.e. 10/20 meters, that you use for DIY etc. Powerline signal would therefore become very weak, as you are creating a "Spur" in your ring main instead of keeping signal within the ring main. Hope this makes some sense?(!)

    So if you haven't set it up yet, here is a basic setup to help you:
    At your Youview box, plug in a trailing socket (ideally has enough outlets for other devices, so 4 or 6 way), then plug in one of your powerline adaptors & also the tv & Youview plugs, as you mention you don't have enough mains sockets nearby. Hopefully this makes sense so far? It's all in the TP-Link instructions for general setup. Then run a enternet cable (supplied with Powerline adaptor) to your Router. If the router is in another room, no problem, simply plug in one of the powerline adaptors with the router.

    Basically what you are doing, once you have followed the pairing instructions supplied for the powerline adaptor, is to "clone" the powerline's code from the ring main/other powerline adaptors (if set up previously)  in your home to another powerline adaptor in another room, without all the bother of running broadband cables around the home. Once you have mastered this Caroline, you can add more to other rooms at a later date. It's a brilliant system that works for extending your wifi range + adding broadband to other rooms. Hopefully this info, should solve your problem. Good luck! Let us know how you get on. John L
    Can't wait for the day when Youview get rid of the dreaded darkened banner when using fast forward/rewind recordings. 
  • caroline19caroline19 Member Posts: 4
    John L 👍🏼

    Thank you. Yes I had plugged in and enjoying being able to record again and also watch Netflix and so on. I have a 3 way extension, all plugs used being phone, router and of course the power line. The larger power line is on the wall plug attached to the YouView box. 
    Happy days I think. Seems to have lost 11 channels on youview in the process but I shall embark and accomplish. 
    Thankyou for your detailed msg. 
    You and all on here are legends. Happy days. Many thanks 
  • SarahSarah Member Posts: 1,812 admin
    Hi @caroline19
    Great to hear that other users were able to provide some advice for you to get this sorted :) In terms of you losing channels, it's worth doing a retune of the box and if that doesn't pick it up the extra channels, take the aerial out of the box, do a retune and then plug the aerial back in and do a fresh retune. 
    Let us know how you get on :) 
    Thanks,
    Sarah
  • John LJohn L Member, Super User Posts: 932 ✭✭
    John L 👍🏼

    Thank you. Yes I had plugged in and enjoying being able to record again and also watch Netflix and so on. I have a 3 way extension, all plugs used being phone, router and of course the power line. The larger power line is on the wall plug attached to the YouView box. 
    Happy days I think. Seems to have lost 11 channels on youview in the process but I shall embark and accomplish. 
    Thankyou for your detailed msg. 
    You and all on here are legends. Happy days. Many thanks 
    No problem Caroline19,
    That's what the forum is for. An exchange of help, suggestions and advice from other users plus help from Youview. Trust everything is still running like clockwork? John L
    Can't wait for the day when Youview get rid of the dreaded darkened banner when using fast forward/rewind recordings. 
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