I don’t know why YouView & FreeSat don’t merge in some way to corner the free market.Any FreeSat box could easily have an aerial or FreeView box have satellite capability. If a way to homogenise the EPG’s recordings etc and offer the apps too it could be a killer partnership.Lots of people have dishes up but no longer Sky & the aerials have FreeView.Most to all TV’s have both Satellite inputs and obviously FreeView. If a memory card, flash drive or SSD slot could be incorporated then it would work amazing for recording. The potential is there.
YouView & FreeSat are essentially just Apps piggybacking on the system to turn all the frequencies and multiplexes and LCN’s etc to a useable interface for the consumer. The “data” comes OTA over the air via an aerial then cabled to the TV or via a satellite then cabled to the TV. It isn’t easy but for those that do it it is. Both these formats are just holding the delivery of content via internet WiFi & internet 5G back for as long as possible.
My tv has 2 satellite inputs and a dual tuner FreeView for watching 1 channel & recording another.if YouView controlled the satellite via their app (instead of FreeSat) as well as the “FreeView” they could harness the content.
I’m not sure what you are on about here.
Is this a garbled version of the technical limitation that choosing the YouView UI over the Freeview UI means that it is not possible to run the satellite tuner simultaneously?
If so, this is the case with all Sony Android sets, is well documented, and has been the case since the launch of these sets in 2015.
As is likewise the case with the recording capability on these sets, ever since that was launched, though initially recording on YouView was going to be provided.
Nobody will say what went wrong with this plan, but it was likely ruled out, again, on technical grounds, rather than by the intervention of the Magisterium.
By the way, all Sony Android sets have twin tuners, probably three in fact, 1 terrestrial and 2 satellite, and the top sets have an extra terrestrial tuner.
Not that anything about these Sony Android TVs would ever tempt me away from Samsung and LG.
Recordable YouView & Recordable Satellite or in fact FreeSat
on the Sony Bravia Android TV.
From whom the limitations come from are the only unknown, it is maybe more likely to be YouView to preserve their pay models they have with BT & TalkTalk.
I bow to your specialised knowledge of the intimate workings of YouView on these Sony TVs.
But I do wonder how you obtained it, by any method that didn’t involve breaking an NDA when posting it on here?
NB: think overlays
Same for recording:
- (who were created to do Terrestrial TV) lack the metadata, skills and motivation to deal with satellite channels, so didn't.
- conspired with Sony to ensure free satellite channels didn't affect BT & TalkTalk's premium channels which aren't available on these TVs??
Your funny. At this Christmas period, of which quite a few people will be spending alone, your user name almost sounds like pantomime. Oh no it isn't.
Merry Christmas everyone.
This would rule against the above conjecture.
The least this conjecture could be is to ‘save all sales (and supplies) of YouView boxes’. And even that suffers from the same difficulties as above.
It is one of the enduring mysteries why, when YouView fell so short of its original promise on these Sony Android TVs, that Sony did not move to overcome the technical difficulties by expanding the hardware and software capabilities of the 2016 sets, or at least the 2017 sets, if the shortcomings were on Sony’s side.
As they must have been, or Sony would have been putting enormous pressure on YouView to deliver what was promised.
The main purpose of YouView must have been to bring the itv Hub and All4 to these Sony sets; but you wonder at the Sony UK boardroom struggles there must have been since 2015, on the one side to have YouView work as originally intended, or on the other side to drop it altogether.
And yet here it is in 2020, still falling between the same two stools on the flagship TVs of a major manufacturer; and no further forward, significantly, than when YouView on Sony Android couldn’t fulfil its promise in 2015.
That’s the thing to wonder about; and not penny-ante conspiracy theories that rely on the very tiny YouView tail being able to wag the very large Sony dog.
Any FreeSat box could easily have an aerial or FreeView box have satellite capability.
Lots of people have dishes up but no longer Sky & the aerials have FreeView.
Most to all TV’s have both Satellite inputs and obviously FreeView.
You'd end up paying more to incorporate each others tuners which would be redundant to users who want only Freeview or Freesat.
There is enough choice without complicating it for the few who may use both.
As you say, there are lots of TVs with both satellite and terrestrial tuners; it seems relatively easy and cheap to add satellite, but quite another thing to add the Freesat EPG. Though it looks as if Sony have finally bitten the bullet and added this.
But as regards ‘easy’, look at the attempt to add YouView to the Sony Android TVs; while not actually abortive, it is certainly majorly compromised.
Oh woah, thats so wrong its untrue.
Dual tuner boxes have been done to death before. 4 tuners in a box. 2 for Freeview and 2 for satellite. Do you know how much of the market these previous now defunct 4 tuner boxes obtained? - 2% - and that was the second attempt. So no, not really a good idea.
and a dual tuner FreeView
for watching 1 channel & recording another.
if YouView controlled the satellite via their app (instead of FreeSat) as well as the “FreeView” they could harness the content.