New BT YouView Box with new features and wifi onboard,to give multi room abilm capabilty a and WIFi?

Michael HronsMichael Hrons Member Posts: 22
Can anyone update me on this,whether its true and when is it likely to happen?  Tks
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  • BawmerBawmer Member Posts: 56 ✭✭
    Can you post where you discovered this information please.
  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭
    @Michael Hrons  A year ago YouView reported that they had 141 research and development staff.
    We haven't seen any major developments recently (apart from cosmetic ones), so I'd say there's a very high probability that there is a new box in development.
    (Despite the fact that there are many people in this forum who are convinced that YouView's days are numbered   :p )
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 650 ✭✭
    edited 9 May 2021, 3:03PM
    Usually with this things there's always teasers, a few rumours or speculation. 
    There has been absolutely nothing apart from the well documented fact that the current CEO at BT is way less enamoured with its tv offering then his predecessor hence the offloading of it's sport content. 
    So you can probably guess where a new box figures on his to do list.
    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 16,803 ✭✭✭
    edited 3 June 2021, 6:28PM
    kodikid said:
    Usually with this things there's always teasers, a few rumours or speculation. 
    There has been absolutely nothing apart from the well documented fact that the current CEO at BT is way less enamoured with its tv offering then his predecessor hence the offloading of it's sport content. 
    So you can probably guess where a new box figures on his to do list.
    @Visionman was most certain, a while back, that a new box was in the offing, but declined to offer any evidence for this whatsoever.

    Perhaps he has some now? But if not, this must at the very least stand as speculation, if not actually rumour.

    But straws in the wind are some patents/licences for new devices for both BT and TalkTalk; these may ever see the actual light of day, though.

    And PVRs are becoming decidedly niche now; the Humax Aura box was caned, not for any recording shortcomings, but because it didn't have Netflix. A streaming service! 
    And anyone who does want a PVR can pick up a YouView box for much less than any new PVR would cost, as long as they don’t mind the new UI when, as it surely will, it hits the BT YouView boxes.
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 16,803 ✭✭✭
    edited 9 May 2021, 5:49PM
    Can anyone update me on this,whether its true and when is it likely to happen?  Tks
    @“Michael Hrons”

    Can you please fix the typos in the title of this thread? 
    For the life of me, I can’t figure out what ‘abilm’ might be.
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭
    edited 9 May 2021, 8:12PM
    Perhaps @Stephen might like to give us a hint as to what is sitting on his desk?  ;)
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 16,803 ✭✭✭
    jimb said:
    Perhaps @Stephen might like to give us a hint as to what is sitting on his desk?  ;)
    A 30-page NDA? 😛
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭
    Roy said:
    jimb said:
    Perhaps @Stephen might like to give us a hint as to what is sitting on his desk?  ;)
    A 30-page NDA? 😛
    Can't imagine what you're talking about Roy  :D
  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭
    It would be interesting to know where @Michael Hrons got his information from.  ;)
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 16,803 ✭✭✭
    jimb said:
    Roy said:
    jimb said:
    Perhaps @Stephen might like to give us a hint as to what is sitting on his desk?  ;)
    A 30-page NDA? 😛
    Can't imagine what you're talking about Roy  :D
    It means ‘Nobody Describe Anything’ 🤐
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 16,803 ✭✭✭
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • StephenStephen Member Posts: 746 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The box on my desk is very nice, thanks. The remote, too.

  • jimbjimb Member, Super User Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭
    jimb said:

    My my, that article's nailed it. Yeah - its a Sagemcom, but I wasn't lucky enough to be selected to trail one.
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    edited 10 May 2021, 4:27PM
    @Stephen - do you actually like the remote on your desk ;)

    Sagemcom and May in the update hmm :)
  • StephenStephen Member Posts: 746 ✭✭✭✭✭
    scott said:
    @Stephen - do you actually like the remote on your desk ;)
    Well, I guess it's easier to use if I'm holding it, I see what you're saying.
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    Stephen said:
    scott said:
    @Stephen - do you actually like the remote on your desk ;)
    Well, I guess it's easier to use if I'm holding it, I see what you're saying.
    You wouldn’t with the light off rofl
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭
    edited 10 May 2021, 8:02PM
    Stephen said:
    scott said:
    @Stephen - do you actually like the remote on your desk ;)
    Well, I guess it's easier to use if I'm holding it, I see what you're saying.

     :D
    I hope its available retail as you don't have a presence at the moment. 
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 650 ✭✭
    Visionman said:
    Stephen said:
    scott said:
    @Stephen - do you actually like the remote on your desk ;)
    Well, I guess it's easier to use if I'm holding it, I see what you're saying.

     :D
    I hope its available retail as you don't have a presence at the moment. 
    The one thing you can guarantee is it won't be available retail. 
    The same way you cannot buy a Sky q box or whatever the Virgin equivalent is.
    BT need exclusively otherwise why would anyone use them for Now tv when it's cheaper and more flexible buying direct. 
    But I personally don't believe a new box is on the horizon or in fact exists as BT are currently trying to offload its greatest asset BT sport. 
    Any new box usp would be what exactly? 
    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    @kodikid - can you show me your evidence to say BT is looking to ‘offload’ BT Sport. I am told they are looking to partner with someone to help cover costs and expand as they plough money into fibre. There plan has always been to be a facilitator in the TV market (or at least it is now) they don’t want to make content they just want to sell on other peoples. Also thier packages are often on sale for six months half price which is actually fairly competitive with NowTV discounts and recordable with a TV guide which the others don’t have. There is a lot of choice and it suits some but not others but BT will not be dropping out of the TV market anytime soon.
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 16,803 ✭✭✭
    @scott

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/latest-sport-news/bt-confirm-talks-offload-stake-24004880

    In a Press Association report on April 29th :-
    BT is understood to be considering a possible full sale of BT Sport, as it looks to focus on its broadband and telecoms business.
    A stake sale to bring in outside investment, joint venture or partnership with a media business is also said to be under consideration.


    Subsequent reports seem to focus on a stake sale, but I can’t find an actual denial of the full sale claim. Though perhaps you can? 


    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 May 2021, 7:59AM
    @Roy - you trust ‘the mirror’ to report facts lol.
    It leads with the headline BT to sell stake and then says it is looking to offload but a stake is also possible - shockingly bad writing.
    The fact that every other report is about a stake sale should tell you something. Of course any business will never flatly deny any options because they would always weigh up any deal if one came along.

    Anyway we are getting a bit off topic as usual lol. Let’s just say the chances of a new box from BT are definitely more pro than they are against ;)
  • RoyRoy Member, Super User Posts: 16,803 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 May 2021, 8:06AM
    @scott

    The Mirror is perhaps not my gold standard either 😛

    Which is why I emphasised above that they were quoting (presumably verbatim or they would have had to say so) a Press Association report.

    Here’s what BT have said officially:-
    https://markets.ft.com/data/announce/detail?dockey=1323-14957161-4B888F5RKGE8MEKS7G9OVDB68D

    My takeaway from that would be merely to emphasise the disconnect between reports of BT wanting to back away from, or soft-pedal, BT Sport and the quote ‘help take it to the next stage in its growth’, which would be a continuing distraction from the Openreach side of things if it still required active BT involvement.

    So I think this is a coded indication that the full sale option is firmly on the table; you don’t have to agree with my interpretation, of course, but please consider it.
    ‘Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful’ Wm Morris
  • DarrenDarren Member, Super User Posts: 512 ✭✭
    edited 11 May 2021, 8:23AM
    If BT did fully sell BT Sport I would prefer Amazon or Disney to buy as long as their monthly fee dont got up by much to pay for them buying sport.
    For some like me who only occasionally watches sport would not want the monthly fee of Amazon Prime or Disney + to go up by much just to cover sport that we have little or no interest in.
    I think a partnership would be the best option for BT Sport in the short term.
  • scottscott Member, Super User Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    edited 11 May 2021, 9:08AM

    @Roy

    I don't disagree with the fact the nothing is off the table if the price is right but I think that is not to intention (at this point).

    I think BT want help with the TV rights costs and thought selling a share to ITV would help BT cover some of that cost while giving a partner rights to show Premier/Champions league and Moto GP (I thought I read somewhere they are letting ITV show a couple of live races this season). I don't think they realistically think someone like ITV could fully purchase all the TV rights, broadcast studio, sponsorship deals, presenters contracts, etc etc in one go (Amazon and Disney possible but even then I think they would look at a gradual buy out rather then a big bang sell off).

    BT Sport is not so much a distraction it is actually a great tool and has made BT seem more attractive to a younger audience that saw BT as an old persons company not so long ago, they are just very aware of the TV rights costs and want to offload some of that but (again my opinion so obviously you can disagree) actually will quite happily keep BT Sport as a part of the company and use it as a showcase (I believe it was a broadcast first for 50FPS/4K/Atmos/HDR/VR or very close).

  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭
    BT are about to renew a 3 year Premier League contract, subject to government approval, which WILL happen. Strange behavior from an award winning sports broadcast provider that a minority on here claim they want to dump. Thats quite simply not true. Sky and Amazon are also about to renew as well. 
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 650 ✭✭
    edited 11 May 2021, 7:13PM
    That's exactly why BT want to jump ship.
    The last prem rights deal was the first ever won with a lower bid, to avoid this happening again the prem want to "roll" over the current deal. 
    This obviously is against fair competition rules hence the need for government approval. 
    This decision has forced BT into offloading or finding someone to share the burden. 
    Talk Talk  and BT's Plusnet have already abandoned offering a tv service.
    If BT do lose the football an alleged new box might not be enough to maintain its current lofty position as a now tv middle person. 
    Ignore this if you disagree. 
  • VisionmanVisionman Member, Super User Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭
    kodikid said:
    That's exactly why BT want to jump ship.
    This decision has forced BT into offloading or finding someone to share the burden. 

    Excuse me, thats simply not true. No one can be forced into a new contract they don't want.
    Don't-cha just love internet lawyers....  :D

    The truth is it actually makes sense for all parties to roll over the current deal, but as you state above, thats basically the equivalent of a one-off cartel, hence the need for Govt approval to do it and they will approve it, as these are strange times with many businesses going under.  
    I'm now happy with the disagree icon, because its gone.
  • kodikidkodikid Member Posts: 650 ✭✭
    No stranger then BT refocusing on what it wants to be.
    Ignore this if you disagree. 
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