The Future of Youview - Good Read
pjcornelly Member Posts: 13 ✭
edited 19 April 2022, 6:48PM in News
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More a depressing read.
Probably got 2 years left.
Once it's existence starts to get discussed you know the writing is on the wall.
Good luck Youview and let's hope you remain in the technological race.
I have always said I love my two Youview boxes but the service is starting to look at bit outdated. Compared to Sky Q and the likes of the Amazon Firestick.
I do agree the future of TV is streaming services.
As for Freeview channels over the internet. It will be a few years yet before this will fully happens. As at lest 15%/20% of the UK still get internet speeds of lest then 20mb.
Virgin (who I wouldn’t touch with a barge pole) are the only fibre provider in my area, BT can't even give a date for supplying it as they seem preoccupied with rolling out the near pointless digital telephone lines.
The major point it didn’t cover, as far as I am concerned, is that the box is reliant for its smooth functionality on YouView’s servers; if these go, we have no thumbnails and no Search, unless BT step up to the plate, as they did with remote recording.
Interesting that he characterised the very late delivery of the Players on Sony TVs last year as a YouView issue; very few people on the Sony Community, who were vitriolic about the lack of the Players, connected those particular dots.
But if the issue wasn’t with the broadcasters, then the cracks in the relationship with Sony must have widened into a fissure; was YouView really behind it, or did Sony try to do a deal with the broadcasters to go it alone, failed, and had to come back to YouView with their tail between their legs, or what? Either way….
But though Sony may go its own way in 2022 or later, and TalkTalk may shift to NetGem (good luck with that when it isn’t a proper recorder, and zapper boxes are so last century), I think BT are so invested in YouView boxes (if not actually in YouView, a word that seems to rank just below ‘Voldemort’ in unsayability) that they will take over the rump of YouView and keep it ticking along, even for those of us outside the BT TV fold.
I still don’t know if BT getting on board with YouView was a poisoned chalice, or its only salvation; I guess if BT had decided they wanted a box to replace BT Vision, and YouView had declined to be it, BT would have gone elsewhere for a box, and although Freeview Play wouldn’t have happened, that might still not be enough to ensure YouView’s survival.
Either way, I guess it would show with hindsight that YouView’s business model was flawed 😢
i must get my old DigitalStream PVR out, just for grins, and see if it still functions, or if Freeview has moved away from it; but certainly, it survived the demise of its maker, as YouView may not. Though if they brought back the Lists UI before any big switch off, that would certainly help 😛
In your Shangri-La, who is going to create tomorrow’s thumbnails, Dusty or his dog? 😛
I think you may be confusing ‘Freeview over the internet’, which should happen quite soon, with ‘Freeview terrestrial switch-off’, which will indeed require much better broadband penetration, and so happen rather a lot further down the track?
You lost me there a bit, I’m afraid; digital telephone lines operate over fibre broadband, even if it’s only just enough broadband to support the phone, so a push for these is a push for fibre. And there’s a deadline for copper to cease, to be met; so, perhaps paradoxically, concentrating on customers who want fibre would push that deadline back 😛
I have a YouView box and more recently a Manhattan T3-R (due to the sluggishness introduced by the recent "enhancements") and where I have the same programme recorded on both, they appear to share the same thumbnails (so far at least) so I'm assuming these are piped in direclty from Freeview or elsewhere.
Thanks, that’s useful to know. But it now makes we wonder why the thumbnails for programmes recorded when we had Lists never backfilled?
Quite right - apologies.
Interestingly however it turns out not all programmes have the same thumbnail on both boxes. For example the Ipcress File, which I happen to have recorded on both, shows one thumbnail for all episodes on the Youview and nothing on the Manhattan for any episode except the last, and that one does not match Youview.
The Manhattan, incidentally, is much faster and more responsive* and therefore nicer to use than the sluggish mess that Youview has become of late. It is however slightly let down by missing a few key features such as remote recording.
*As an example, I timed getting to my second recording on the Manhattan at about 2 seconds and 3 button presses. On my T2000 the same journey is 9-10 seconds (although it felt longer) and 6 button presses - more still if I need to go into the full MyTV section to access all the recordings.
I will check my archives when I get home, and see how far back the thumbnails go….
Not sure how or why this happens but it has done so a few times. Just confirms really that Youview either needs some major investment and an overall not tweaks or move on.
Fingers crossed BT do take it on and invest.
Sky Q in comparison is miles ahead but that is far from perfect. They so need to add a Watchlist section to collate streaming activities.
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