BT Sports channel on Freeview

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It would appear that BT Sports channel is coming to freeview but I thought this was an IPTV channel or is it going to be broadcast in other formats?

http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/de...

Cestrian

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Roy

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I don't read it as optimistically as you. It lists where it will be available, and who to, and Freeview is not mentioned once.

I imagine you read:

How will Freeview customers be able to get BT Sport?

We will reveal more details closer to launch.


but I suspect the answer may be 'get a YouView box from us, as long as you have Infinity' and nothing much more advantageous than that.

gomez

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It doesn't actually say any such thing.

Visionman

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Cestrian 1 hour ago
BT Sports channel on Freeview

It would appear that BT Sports channel is coming to freeview but I thought this was an IPTV channel or is it going to be broadcast in other formats?


Sky Sports is already available on Freeview, Cestrian. And the BT Sports channels may be available via Freeview too. Which YouView boxes won't be able to access as they don't have a CI slot. So yes, they will be available as IPTV only on YouView boxes.

And no one really knows about the continued Freeview situation, until BT announce such. But it will be broadcast in formats other than IPTV. But as to how far or wide that will be, no one knows until the announcements are made.

Cestrian

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Thanks for that info .... I dont want to go down the fibre road due to cost (I have been offered it free for the remainder of my BT contract but then monthly fee doubles what I pay now and BT at present dont offer a loyalty discount on fibre) as well as the inconvenience of having new wiring within the home as well as powerline adapters not being recommended etc etc but my HD freeview tv has a CI slot so may be able to use that .
I think its just a matter of wait and see

Martin

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>> as well as powerline adapters not being recommended etc etc

I use my BT Infinity with Powerline Adapters, works just fine.

drhowells

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Just to check Martin, do you have the new streaming channels from BT and are using Powerline adapters with no problems, or do you mean that you just use infinity and powerline adapters in general?

BT have said they will not support Powerline adapters with the new streaming channels, so it would be interesting to know what peoples experiences are.

Cestrian

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Thats interesting Martin as I am sure I have read somewhere that BT say that they do not recommend/advise the use of powerline adaptors with the new IPTV channels (I am sure Visionman will point me in the right direction as I am sure we have discussed this before)

Martin

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Apols to Cestrian and drhowells for any confusion caused by my post - I don't get the IPTV channels as I'm not a BT Vision customer. I'd obviously misunderstood something and thought the comment was about using adapters with Infinity.

FWIW I have seen people on the BT and DS forums say they DO use adapters with the IPTV channels and that they work fine.

My hunch is that BT are seeking to save themselves a lot of support calls by dissuading people from using adapters and that when they say 'not supported' it's meant as in the 'we won't help if it doesn't work' sense and not in the 'it won't work' sense.

Just as I use an Airport Express with my BT Infinity but BT only support issues when you plug their awful HomeHub 3 back in.

drhowells

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Thanks for clarifying Martin :)

Visionman

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Cestrian less than a minute ago
Thats interesting Martin as I am sure I have read somewhere that BT say that they do not recommend/advise the use of powerline adaptors with the new IPTV channels (I am sure Visionman will point me in the right direction as I am sure we have discussed this before)


BT don't support the use of powerline adaptors (home plugs). But they can work.
But as to if they will work or not is entirely dependent on your homes internal set up/wiring. Hence why BT won't provide technical support for such.

It's a bit (or a lot) like Multiroom. It does now work on both BT Vision 2.0 and YouView, but they don't offer technical support for that either.

Oh, and to work, ones adaptors must pull at least 16Mbps (though higher speeds are recommended).

redchiz

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As a further aside on this subject and just to demonstrate yet another difference in approach between providers, TalkTalk do support the use of powerline adapters, but only those which they supply themselves. Obviously, people have got alternative models to work as well as other solutions, but not with "official" support.

drhowells

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I was under the impression that Talk Talk didn't have any HD channels though, which is a different kettle of fish altogether.....

Visionman

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Agreed. And TalkTalk's future HD channels will be fibre only too.

redchiz

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They don't presently. But I think that this is probably a bit of a red herring at the moment. It's not a question of whether powerline adapters work or not - obviously they do in the right kind of set-up - but as to whether the provider offers any support. If powerline adapters currently work in your household, then subject to their specification there is no earthly reason why they will not continue to work with an 8Mbps HD stream.

drhowells

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I agree that many powerline adapters should work in theory, but it will be hit and miss depending upon people's setup, but streaming an 8mps HD stream constantly and successfully is completely different to downloading a large file or just using the internet. 1 glitch on the line downloading and you won't notice. 1 glitch streaming and your picture could break up. Powerline connections are an extra step in connecting to the internet that can lead to a glitch.

redchiz

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Thanks for explaining that to me, you clearly feel that I needed it.

drhowells

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Um, wow. You said "there is no earthly reason why they will not continue to work with an 8Mbps HD stream". I was just commenting on a reason on why there was a reason. No offense meant, just discussing.

redchiz

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Powerline adapters won't work for everybody. Neither will YouView for that matter.

All I am saying is that if your current set-up works with powerline adapters, then there is no reason why it should not continue to do so. Subject to internal wiring, download speeds, other devices in use, acts of whichever god you happen to believe in etc. etc.

OK?

drhowells

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Why the aggression? If I came across in a funny way, I didn't mean to. I know what you are saying and I am just saying that streaming an 8Mbps stream for hours on end with no problems is different to 'usual' internet activity. You keep saying there is no reason, but THIS is the reason.

redchiz

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Please point out the aggression? You didn't come across in a "funny way," just hugely patronising.

drhowells

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If you can't see it, I am not going to explain to you. I have apologised twice if you took what I wrote the wrong way. I meant no harm or offense. I was making an honest point, that you still seem to be missing or ignoring.

OK?

Visionman

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redchiz less than a minute ago
Powerline adapters won't work for everybody. Neither will YouView for that matter.

All I am saying is that if your current set-up works with powerline adapters, then there is no reason why it should not continue to do so. Subject to internal wiring, download speeds, other devices in use, acts of whichever god you happen to believe in etc. etc.


I'm one of the one's where they wouldn't work with BT. My PLA's were only pulling 10Mbps, which for BTVision's channels isn't enough. As 15Mbps is required (for now). So I've connected a 30m CAT5e shielded cable for when I get them.

Visionman

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I know the SD channels stream at 5Mbps (the same'ish as TT) but does anyone know what bitrate HD streams at?

lloydoflondon

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Visionman,

I've read somewhere that to stream HDTV via IPTV, would require 15-50Mbps using MPEG2. Using MPEG4 would require 5-10Mbps.
Thus the necessity of using fibre optic cables to deliver HDTV via this method. To paraphrase Scotty the copper wires 'Would just not take it, Captain!'

http://www.icf.at/en/6000/how_much_ba...

A link is above.

Visionman

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Thanks for the link. And BTVision boxes are MPEG4 enabled. As are YouView boxes too.